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Old February 10th, 2010, 11:03 PM   #1
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Iran to suspend Gmail access to citizens

Another interesting conflict between Google and censorship happened today as the Iranian government has started to deny gmail access to its citizens as it continues to try and stop protests against the current government. Just a few weeks ago we saw Google beginning a plan that could potentially see them leaving the Chinese market due to censorship and now, essentially the opposite is happening in Iran with some of their services being censored by the government.

Source: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE61954C20100210

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Old February 11th, 2010, 03:54 AM   #2
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The Iranian government are run by religious extremists. The reason for them to do this is that they want to control every single inhabitant. They don't believe in the right to say whatever you like whenever you like. Freedom of expression is very limited, and the best to do this is through internet.
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Old February 11th, 2010, 01:25 PM   #3
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First problems with China, and now Iran. I wonder whether this was a run up to the Government announcement that they would not tolerate any demonstrations during their Revolution Anniversary when people had been planning huge rallies:
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Authorities banned foreign media in Iran from covering the pro-reform protests, while allowing them to cover the official anniversary ceremonies, including Ahmadinejad's speech, but there is a ban on covering opposition protests. Tehran residents also reported Internet speeds dropping dramatically and e-mail services such as Gmail being blocked in a common government tactic to foil opposition attempts to organize.
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Old February 11th, 2010, 03:04 PM   #4
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They're frightened in Iran, because they saw what power YouTube and Twitter had back in previous demonstrations and during the election last year. This regime is so corrupt and it has also no sympathy for individual human values. I am almost positive that every single supporter of Ahmadinejad are brainwashed. And if they are standing firmly behind their choice, I'd still believe they're brainwashed.
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Old February 11th, 2010, 08:30 PM   #5
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They're frightened in Iran, because they saw what power YouTube and Twitter had back in previous demonstrations and during the election last year. This regime is so corrupt and it has also no sympathy for individual human values. I am almost positive that every single supporter of Ahmadinejad are brainwashed. And if they are standing firmly behind their choice, I'd still believe they're brainwashed.
Well the primary reason these forms of communication are being banned right now is because the protests from the election still have not stopped. Most of the people do not seem to approve of Ahmadinejad and from those that do, I wouldn't say it is so much brainwashing as basically being bought- they have things to gain from him being in power.
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Old February 11th, 2010, 09:34 PM   #6
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Well the primary reason these forms of communication are being banned right now is because the protests from the election still have not stopped. Most of the people do not seem to approve of Ahmadinejad and from those that do, I wouldn't say it is so much brainwashing as basically being bought- they have things to gain from him being in power.
I can't see how anyone can support these sort of extreme opinions that Ahmadinejad represent without being brainwashed first. But of course, my generalization of people was might a bit extreme. I was a little too hopeful, I am very aware of that people support Ahmadinejad without either having been brainwashed or anything else. They just want him as a president, and what is most hurtful to see is when women want him as president. That is really something I can't put together.
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I can't see how anyone can support these sort of extreme opinions that Ahmadinejad represent without being brainwashed first.
Being brainwashed is often a matter of perspective. Some of those people may believe in the fundamental ideals that Ahmadinejad believes in and they may have come to those ideals even before this regime existed. Sure some might be brainwashed even from the fundamentalist's perspective, but there are those who believe what is being done is right.

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But of course, my generalization of people was might a bit extreme. I was a little too hopeful, I am very aware of that people support Ahmadinejad without either having been brainwashed or anything else. They just want him as a president, and what is most hurtful to see is when women want him as president. That is really something I can't put together.
Yep, exactly. As for supporting him, it is often a matter of how they were raised. Personally though with all the coverage the opposition has gotten, I think the majority of people who still support him either agree with his ideals or simply have something to gain either financially or politically out of it.
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Being brainwashed is often a matter of perspective. Some of those people may believe in the fundamental ideals that Ahmadinejad believes in and they may have come to those ideals even before this regime existed. Sure some might be brainwashed even from the fundamentalist's perspective, but there are those who believe what is being done is right.
I realize that. I think that's sad, but also a sign of very little knowledge about the actual consequences of the Ahmadinejads policies are.


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Yep, exactly. As for supporting him, it is often a matter of how they were raised. Personally though with all the coverage the opposition has gotten, I think the majority of people who still support him either agree with his ideals or simply have something to gain either financially or politically out of it.
Yes, and also a matter of what they've been told during their upbringing. This is more an Arab tradition that Ahmadinejad is following, it's not very typical for Persians, they actually have a very beautiful culture. It unfortunately has been destroyed since 1979.
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Yes, and also a matter of what they've been told during their upbringing. This is more an Arab tradition that Ahmadinejad is following, it's not very typical for Persians, they actually have a very beautiful culture. It unfortunately has been destroyed since 1979.
I don't see their culture as destroyed, just temporarily going into the dark ages in Iran, but thriving outside Iran. Hopefully one day when those people can "come out" again, all of it will be revived again in Iran. By the way, the Iranian culture is very much alive and making great strides in Dubai, UAE. Quite a bit of their culture is noticeable everywhere. I also believe that quite a number of their scientists, engineers and medical specialists have migrated to the United States.
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I don't see their culture as destroyed, just temporarily going into the dark ages in Iran, but thriving outside Iran. Hopefully one day when those people can "come out" again, all of it will be revived again in Iran. By the way, the Iranian culture is very much alive and making great strides in Dubai, UAE. Quite a bit of their culture is noticeable everywhere. I also believe that quite a number of their scientists, engineers and medical specialists have migrated to the United States.
Yes, you're right about that. Luckily a lot of the decent civilized people have gotten the chance to get out of Iran in time.
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Yes, you're right about that. Luckily a lot of the decent civilized people have gotten the chance to get out of Iran in time.
Right! The ones who were trapped probably had to move backwards in time progress wise.
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