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Old July 18th, 2010, 09:57 PM   #1
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2 blog/forum hosting sites shutdown by unknown elements of the US Gov't.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-31001_3-20010877-261.html

They just went dark, the only explanation being that some gov't law enforcement agency told them to shut down operations. They can't even talk about it without getting prosecuted!

To add to this strange turn of events, the cops don't even know what is going on. Some hush hush stuff happening and I don't like it!
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Old July 19th, 2010, 12:05 PM   #2
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There is a press release afrom the company explaining that it was "terrorist propaganda"
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Old July 19th, 2010, 08:13 PM   #3
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There is a press release afrom the company explaining that it was "terrorist propaganda"
More false propaganda. Post a link if this is true, otherwise don't spread rumors.

More than likely it is a part of Biden's new initiative to curb piracy. This administration can't get out of office fast enough for me.
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Old July 19th, 2010, 09:13 PM   #4
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More false propaganda. Post a link if this is true, otherwise don't spread rumors.

More than likely it is a part of Biden's new initiative to curb piracy. This administration can't get out of office fast enough for me.
Cleary you were to blinded by your rage against the anything not Bill Oreily to even read what you were responding too.

Links are not gospel. A mistake that 99 percent of High School Debate forum lovers make. You wanna claim the company lied about it pulling a site for Bomb making info??!!? A... why would they do that and B.. PROOVE IT!!

CNET did not do anything to reserch this story, cherry picked a quote from the press release.

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Old July 20th, 2010, 06:34 AM   #5
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Cleary you were to blinded by your rage against the anything not Bill Oreily to even read what you were responding too.

Links are not gospel.
It's called a citation (wikipedia). It would probably serve your case better than slamming everything you don't agree with as Fox News propaganda. Nobody is under any obligation to do the work for you. Would you mind facilitating an objective look at the article by linking it please? I imagine a simple cut+paste link shouldn't take much effort.
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Old July 20th, 2010, 06:37 AM   #6
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It's called a citation (wikipedia). It would probably serve your case better than slamming everything you don't agree with as Fox News propaganda. Nobody is under any obligation to do the work for you. Would you mind facilitating an objective look at the article by linking it please? I imagine a simple cut+paste link shouldn't take much effort.
Give it up, he's immune to any logical and rational argument that makes the US look good. I don't know what his beef is, but he's out to get us.
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Old July 20th, 2010, 07:38 AM   #7
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Give it up, he's immune to any logical and rational argument that makes the US look good. I don't know what his beef is, but he's out to get us.
I'm horrible D:
Anyway, I'm a bit confused about the website closures. I would think that if they were infringing anything that they'd have the right to know what provoked the closure. Hopefully there will be some updates later on about it.
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Old July 20th, 2010, 07:59 AM   #8
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I'm horrible D:
Anyway, I'm a bit confused about the website closures. I would think that if they were infringing anything that they'd have the right to know what provoked the closure. Hopefully there will be some updates later on about it.
79,000 blogs are down. That's 79,000 free speech websites gone. I don't have a number for the forums.
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Old July 20th, 2010, 06:00 PM   #9
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Everyone, watch it with the mocking. If you can't post without personally attacking someone, then don't post. And, please read the rules again if you have to: http://www.politicalfray.com/faq.php...les#faq_frules

notimpressed, the issue here though is that that website had 70k+ user created blogs on it. Members have the ability to post content on that site, much like everyone does on this one. If one member broke a law, should all the blogs be taken down because of it or should the service provider (Blogetery) be notified so they can remove the one illegal blog? Legally, the host may have acted within the law just due to their T.O.S., but that does not mean the reaction was the best one.

If someone made a post with such content on this site and my host or law enforcement officials saw the post before I got a chance to see and delete it, I only hope that they wouldn't take this whole site down before at least giving me a chance to delete it. Now if Blogetery was warned and didn't act, that's another story.

edit: Okay, so apparently the site had a history of such content and I am guessing it wasn't dealt with properly, in which case this could be a reasonable thing to do even though it sucks for all the innocent people who were hosted with them and had nothing to do with it. Then again, they could've always moved to hosting themselves, where they would be able to control those things themselves or gone with a larger presence- one with their own hosting and better legal backing, such as Google's Blogger service. Still not sure on what happened to ipbfree though and whether this is related.
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Old July 22nd, 2010, 03:31 PM   #10
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A. The whole server and thus many sites go down temporly cause of the inviestigation. That is a bummer but more a technical reality then a cenorship one.

B. if there was true cencorship going I'd be screaming louder then any

C. if this was Bush realm H.L.S. doing this. Nobody would have said boo. The issue raised here is not of cenorship, its partisan politics..again

D. obviously this was read without gettign the whole story as I said, IE EDIT:

thus I wasnt mocking anybody just irked at being called a liay by people that obviuly did not have the real story. Websites are never gospel but this little deal here this was easy to figure out of you read it.

In fact I even found a forum where they owner, the company that pulled him and others are were/are arguing.

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Old July 22nd, 2010, 05:06 PM   #11
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What does this have to do with Bush or partisan politics? The articles referred to, the main public story, and the posts in this thread do not make that inference. Also, do you seriously think people would have reacted differently had Bush been in office? I can say with a good amount of certainty that David would have had the same response here and I can tell you with 100% confidence that I would.
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Old July 22nd, 2010, 10:37 PM   #12
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Its Glenn beck, hysteria. And of course they make that inference. The lean right is very obvious.
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Old July 25th, 2010, 05:25 AM   #13
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edit: Okay, so apparently the site had a history of such content and I am guessing it wasn't dealt with properly, in which case this could be a reasonable thing to do even though it sucks for all the innocent people who were hosted with them and had nothing to do with it. Then again, they could've always moved to hosting themselves, where they would be able to control those things themselves or gone with a larger presence- one with their own hosting and better legal backing, such as Google's Blogger service. Still not sure on what happened to ipbfree though and whether this is related.
What really sucks for those using the service not posting the questionable content is that I can guarantee some people were not aware of the service's history and wound up getting caught in the cross fire. When the software developer is involved a lot of other uninvolved people got the boot as well :\
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Old July 25th, 2010, 11:00 AM   #14
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They will get there pages back. Put away your Glenn Beck visual aids.
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Old July 26th, 2010, 06:18 PM   #15
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Doesn't always work out. If the service itself was penalized, then unless the service is restored the members of its branch sites (the subscribers) will have to setup shop elsewhere. At the very least it's a hassle since the site materials have to be redone in such cases. It's possible depending on how things turn out with their case that the services can be restored but as far as I'm aware right now it's still ongoing, and still affecting regular users of the software. Glenn Beck is not part of this discussion...
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Old July 26th, 2010, 07:58 PM   #16
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[COLOR=#323232] Glenn beck has everything to do with this. If this was a bush administration it be totally different conversation. The inference here is that it’s some Socialist evil doing and censorship.
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[COLOR=#323232] There is a big hassle sure. When the investigation is over the other people will get the service back. If data is lost, the customers need to raise an issue with the company. If the investigation results in lost data. Well, that’s typical government incompetence, not some evil attack
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They just went dark, the only explanation being that some gov't law enforcement agency told them to shut down operations. They can't even talk about it without getting prosecuted!

To add to this strange turn of events, the cops don't even know what is going on. Some hush hush stuff happening and I don't like it!
probably George Bush's fault...........................

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[COLOR=#323232] Well, that’s typical government incompetence, not some evil attack
this is the point of fact the defeats any government conspiracy theory^
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