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Old July 18th, 2012, 09:41 AM   #1
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Syrian Rebels attack Damascus.

Several top gov't officials including a vice president are dead. Loyalist forces retaliated by firing on celebrating civilians.
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Old July 18th, 2012, 09:52 AM   #2
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Al-Assad should have listened when BO and Hillary warned him.
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Old July 18th, 2012, 06:17 PM   #3
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Hezbollah still supports Assad officially but the bombing may implicate its involvement and some analysis say that the end is near for Assad who is currently in hiding. The US is proposing an interim government without Assad but it's up to Russia to decide its puppet regime's fate because the UN Security Council cannot act without Russia's cooperation. Losing key figures of the regime may also indicate that Assad is losing control of the country and the FSA is gaining the upper hand and Assad could end up getting hunted down like Gaddafi by the rebels.

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Old July 18th, 2012, 06:48 PM   #4
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Al-Assad should have listened when BO and Hillary warned him.
He should of called it quits when Yemen fell. No outside aid and the gov't still fell same as Libya, he should of taken the hint, emptied the nation's bank accounts and retired to South Beach like every other deposed dictator with brains.
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Assad can create a new border line for his goverment with the support of Alevis and Christians. Kurds also seem to ask the privilege in their land. They have terrorist organizations already to threat Arabs.


I think something is clear that Syria will not be better for long time then Assad's period.
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Old July 29th, 2012, 04:50 AM   #6
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Assad can create a new border line for his goverment with the support of Alevis and Christians. Kurds also seem to ask the privilege in their land. They have terrorist organizations already to threat Arabs.


I think something is clear that Syria will not be better for long time then Assad's period.
Ya, just like Tunisia and Iraq going to the Islamists. Oh, wait.
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Old July 29th, 2012, 07:26 AM   #7
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Assad can create a new border line for his goverment with the support of Alevis and Christians. Kurds also seem to ask the privilege in their land. They have terrorist organizations already to threat Arabs.


I think something is clear that Syria will not be better for long time then Assad's period.
I wish I could make a nice speech about how Russia is as guilty as Assad. But then I think how many times we (the USA) has used the veto to protect slaughter I just can't seem to pull it off.
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Ya, just like Tunisia and Iraq going to the Islamists. Oh, wait.
Tunisia is different from others. But Iraq is what Syria going to be probably.


All the autonomous regions want to be independent in the end. Today is Iraq's central government forces and Kurdish armed peshmerga s on the brink of a conflict over the control of the border with Syria. Also the region's goverment just started to exporting oil to Turkey over an agreement, which s İraq's prime minister called illegal.


The problem of these countries are firstly sharing of management rather then radical islam. Being aware of this fact, Syrian rebels also should destroy the armed Kurds in the north, if they don't want to be one of the three part of a country after the civil war.
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Tunisia is different from others. But Iraq is what Syria going to be probably.


All the autonomous regions want to be independent in the end. Today is Iraq's central government forces and Kurdish armed peshmerga s on the brink of a conflict over the control of the border with Syria. Also the region's goverment just started to exporting oil to Turkey over an agreement, which s İraq's prime minister called illegal.


The problem of these countries are firstly sharing of management rather then radical islam. Being aware of this fact, Syrian rebels also should destroy the armed Kurds in the north, if they don't want to be one of the three part of a country after the civil war.
Frankly this is a good thing. The issues in ME has nothing to do with Israel or Iran (though it makes for good propaganda). Rather the conflicts arise from a disregard for tribal binderies during the partitioning of Turkey following the Great War. Allowing this to be rectified and having a body to mediate inter-tribal deputes (a body that already exists in the form of the AL and UN) would have a mid- to long-term stabilizing effect in the region.
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Frankly this is a good thing. The issues in ME has nothing to do with Israel or Iran (though it makes for good propaganda). Rather the conflicts arise from a disregard for tribal binderies during the partitioning of Turkey following the Great War. Allowing this to be rectified and having a body to mediate inter-tribal deputes (a body that already exists in the form of the AL and UN) would have a mid- to long-term stabilizing effect in the region.
I am sure glad the UN is so stabilizing in Syria. Things could get bad without them.
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I am sure glad the UN is so stabilizing in Syria. Things could get bad without them.
Seeing as UN workers keep getting shot at by the gov't, their failure isn't their fault. In any case, you didn't actually respond to my point.
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Seeing as UN workers keep getting shot at by the gov't, their failure isn't their fault. In any case, you didn't actually respond to my point.
I can't respond to any point about the UN being a good thing.
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I can't respond to any point about the UN being a good thing.
And yet the point had nothing to do with the UN. The UN was a related observation (it already did what needed to be done). The point is that redrawing the map is a good thing and worries about ME countries falling apart are misplaced.
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By the way, seems like Esad's soldiers came back to the Aleppo. A lot of foreign people coming here, training in Turkey then joning the war by crossing border. I saw one of them in an interview, had came from Canada.


How many people wants to die in this meaningless civil ( which going to be 'global')war, really scary. There could be no satisfactory result of a war of two barbarian side. Better trying to stop the war rather then sponsoring for so called ''interests''.
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Global war? Regional at worst. Probably not much further than Syria's own borders.

If the civil war started affecting the oil trade, I guarantee the USA would start carpet bombing Assad's armored divisions so fast, they'd never know what killed them.

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Global war? Regional at worst. Probably not much further than Syria's own borders.

If the civil war started affecting the oil trade, I guarantee the USA would start carpet bombing Assad's armored divisions so fast, they'd never know what killed them.

Unless the war spreads into Southern Iraq, I don't see how the oil trade can be effected. That's not to say we won't jump in if the war spills over into Israel and Turkey. And I use the word 'and' for good reason, if it's just 1 or the other we'll just sit back and watch popcorn in hand, Israel and Turkey are the regions most powerful military powers and can take care of themselves.
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Turkey took it's place in this Syrian civil warbut İsrael not. Also what's good for İsrael really uncertain, Shiite government or the upcoming one from Syrian Arab Councıl. İt is really hard to decide, that why they stands inactive maybe.


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Global war? Regional at worst. Probably not much further than Syria's own borders.
But the world plays within the boders already with the material and moral support to their sides. Within the borders has become a global conflict, other way regime would have collapsed long ago without their supporters.
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