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Old March 6th, 2017, 03:23 AM   #1
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How Deep Does This Go?

I am not referring to the Trump/Russia situation, instead I have genuine questions about the Trump devotees. Do you believe Trumps tweet about Obama wire tapping Trump Tower?
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Old March 6th, 2017, 04:31 AM   #2
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Which one?
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Old March 6th, 2017, 04:37 AM   #3
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Which one?
Pick one...I'm only familiar with the latest.
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Old March 6th, 2017, 06:20 AM   #4
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there are a lot of unknowns.

However, if Obama was involved, it means he was willing to use any means necessary to end democracy and instill a warm hand-off from one pseudo dictator to the next.

It does seem to highlight that there is NO case against Trump being in bed with the Russians. If they had any information proving this, they would have used it prior to the election to ensure a win.
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Old March 6th, 2017, 07:06 AM   #5
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there are a lot of unknowns.

However, if Obama was involved, it means he was willing to use any means necessary to end democracy and instill a warm hand-off from one pseudo dictator to the next.

It does seem to highlight that there is NO case against Trump being in bed with the Russians. If they had any information proving this, they would have used it prior to the election to ensure a win.
closed loop thinking says:

"It has to end my way or the whole thing is rigged"
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Old March 6th, 2017, 07:18 AM   #6
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touche' I guess?
but to be fair, my "closed loop" does have a number of overt "openings" (in bold).

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there are a lot of unknowns.

However, if Obama was involved, it means he was willing to use any means necessary to end democracy and instill a warm hand-off from one pseudo dictator to the next.

It does seem to highlight that there is NO case against Trump being in bed with the Russians. If they had any information proving this, they would have used it prior to the election to ensure a win.

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Old March 6th, 2017, 07:23 AM   #7
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a more salient version of a closed loop would be to say,

"I know Obama was behind this and if evidence does not highlight this, it is because one of his minions fell on their sword for him"

In the above, I am allowing no alternative possibility to my position, therefore it is closed.
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Old March 6th, 2017, 07:34 AM   #8
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a more salient version of a closed loop would be to say,

"I know Obama was behind this and if evidence does not highlight this, it is because one of his minions fell on their sword for him"

In the above, I am allowing no alternative possibility to my position, therefore it is closed.
One cannot close a non existent loop.
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there are a lot of unknowns.

However, if Obama was involved, it means he was willing to use any means necessary to end democracy and instill a warm hand-off from one pseudo dictator to the next.

It does seem
to highlight that there is NO case against Trump being in bed with the Russians. If they had any information proving this, they would have used it prior to the election to ensure a win. "

Your begin and continue the entire presumption with IF and IT SEEMS. IF Trump was in bed with the Russians, IT SEEMS the FBI should be trying to find out.
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Old March 6th, 2017, 09:10 AM   #9
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I have a great idea! How about if we take the proverbial "wait and see approach"?
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Old March 6th, 2017, 09:40 AM   #10
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I have a great idea! How about if we take the proverbial "wait and see approach"?
Just how long do you think we should wait?

Until the FBI finishes an investigation they cannot start on the former President based on a blog?

Until the FBI finishes its investigation into the Russian ties most of his people lied to say never happened?

Perhaps until he tweets us into a war?



Seriously, when will people say enough is enough?
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Old March 6th, 2017, 02:07 PM   #11
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It wouldn't surprise me at all if elements inside or outside the government tried to bug Trump, but I am quite sure that Obama has enough smarts to arrange that there would be no way of linking it to him. Besides, Trump is such a goofball, I doubt that Obama would have a great interest in bugging such a loose cannon.

Since I am sure that Trump has no proof of such bugging, and since it seems that the Presidential Idiot got the idea from some off-the-wall Breitbart report, in the end this fracas will end in making Trump look even more ridiculous --- if that is possible.

Apart from Trump's sinister lying and sociopathy, I am beginning to think Trump has a case of galloping senility.

It will be sad thing if the country has to face a serious crisis with this clown in charge --- he has cried "Wolf!" so often, who will believe him if he actually tells the truth about something serious?
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Old March 6th, 2017, 02:29 PM   #12
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They say "where's there's smoke, there is fire. There is a reason there is the belief there is smoke. I seriously doubt it would be foolishly be made up. There was definite "belief" there was smoke in the Birth Certificate matter too, otherwise the issue would not have been raised, "believe me" (like Don frequently like to say).
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Old March 6th, 2017, 02:37 PM   #13
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They say "where's there's smoke, there is fire. There is a reason there is the belief there is smoke. I seriously doubt it would be foolishly be made up. There was definite "belief" there was smoke in the Birth Certificate matter too, otherwise the issue would not have been raised, "believe me" (like Don frequently like to say).
...Snif, Snif....Is that Russian smoke?

It's pretty sad that you dwell on Birther garbage while ignoring all Trumps Russia crap.
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Old March 6th, 2017, 02:46 PM   #14
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...Snif, Snif....Is that Russian smoke?

It's pretty sad that you dwell on Birther garbage while ignoring all Trumps Russia crap.
LOL!!! No dwelling. In fact this is THE VERY 1st time I've EVER addressed it!

There is no Russian crap! There is no evidence WHATSOEVER that there is any there, there on that one! If there is, I have yet to see other than innuendo and "guilty by association".
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Old March 6th, 2017, 02:52 PM   #15
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LOL!!! No dwelling. In fact this is THE VERY 1st time I've EVER addressed it!

There is no Russian crap! There is no evidence WHATSOEVER that there is any there, there on that one! If there is, I have yet to see other than innuendo and "guilty by association".
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Old March 6th, 2017, 05:39 PM   #16
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This deep!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpqqjU7u5Yc
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