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Old June 1st, 2017, 04:55 PM   #1
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Trump to Earth: Drop Dead!

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Old June 1st, 2017, 05:15 PM   #2
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Old June 3rd, 2017, 02:37 PM   #3
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In less than 3 minutes, Arnold terminates Donald's rationale for pulling us out of the Paris Accord
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Old June 3rd, 2017, 03:40 PM   #4
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Apparently we can't actually pull out until, of all days, election day 2020. There's a 3 year commitment followed by 1 year before a withdraw takes effect.
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Old June 4th, 2017, 01:58 AM   #6
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Regardless of the shortsighted Trumpist mindset, Industry will continue the natural path of economics. Renewable and less carbon intensive energies will get cheaper and better while dirty versions will fade and die. Trump seems to think coal has a chance in the face of even wind which emplys more people and has become less expensive....what an idiot.
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Old June 4th, 2017, 06:00 AM   #7
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Apparently we can't actually pull out until, of all days, election day 2020. There's a 3 year commitment followed by 1 year before a withdraw takes effect.
It is purely VOLUNTARY action once in, as it was NOT an actual Treaty (otherwise Obama did NOT have the authority to enter in it in the 1st place), so we could be "IN" on paper, but yet do NOTHING according to it, which is in reality is what will happen.
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Old June 4th, 2017, 08:39 AM   #8
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It is purely VOLUNTARY action once in, as it was NOT an actual Treaty (otherwise Obama did NOT have the authority to enter in it in the 1st place), so we could be "IN" on paper, but yet do NOTHING according to it, which is in reality is what will happen.
....Uh...we already ARE doing what it requires because of simple economics. Wind, Solar, natural gas and hydro are the only profitable energy forms anymore.
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Old June 4th, 2017, 08:49 AM   #9
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....Uh...we already ARE doing what it requires because of simple economics. Wind, Solar, natural gas and hydro are the only profitable energy forms anymore.
LOL! Gasoline would suddenly not be available if that was the case!
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LOL! Gasoline would suddenly not be available if that was the case!
I suppose it is possible that your mind is incapable of complex thought or intellectual limitations prevent you from providing comments and opinions of your own but likely the reality is less complimentary and rather sad.
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Old June 4th, 2017, 05:14 PM   #11
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I suppose it is possible that your mind is incapable of complex thought or intellectual limitations prevent you from providing comments and opinions of your own but likely the reality is less complimentary and rather sad.
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The Republicans are still far from throwing Trump under the bus, but everyone seems to be ignoring the threat to Trump from the vast number of civil suits still pending against the President. Trump has such a record of lying that when court cases convict him lying and criminal activity, his tenure may come to a crashing end.
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Old June 12th, 2017, 04:57 PM   #14
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NEW YORK Ė President Donald Trumpís withdrawal of the United States from the Paris climate agreement is not just dangerous for the world; it is also sociopathic. Without remorse, Trump is willfully inflicting harm on others. The declaration by Nikki Haley, the US ambassador to the United Nations, that Trump believes in climate change makes matters worse, not better. Trump is knowingly and brazenly jeopardizing the planet....

Trumpís announcement was rooted in two profoundly destructive developments. The first is the corruption of the US political system. Trumpís announcement was not really his alone. It reflected the will of the Republican leadership in Congress, including the 22 Republican senators who sent Trump a letter the week before, calling on him to withdraw from the Paris accord.

These senators, and their counterparts in the House of Representatives, are on the take of the oil and gas industry, which spent $100 million on campaign contributions in 2016, of which 90% went to Republican candidates. (In fact, the total was almost certainly far above $100 million, but much is untraceable.)
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Old June 13th, 2017, 05:18 AM   #15
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I hear about some states and cities saying essentially,

"Trump...nanny-nanny-boo-boo! if you won't take care of our environment through massively inefficient, inherently corrupt and non-measurable, global means, we'll just do it ourselves! So there!"

I am reluctant to point out the irony of big government supporters working at the state and local level to get something done instead of relying on the inefficient nanny state to do it.

instead, I'll just be quiet and let the left act like conservatives to spite Trump.

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Old June 13th, 2017, 05:47 AM   #16
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I hear about some states and cities saying essentially,

"Trump...nanny-nanny-boo-boo! if you won't take care of our environment through massively inefficient, inherently corrupt and non-measurable, global means, we'll just do it ourselves! So there!"

I am reluctant to point out the irony of big government supporters working at the state and local level to get something done instead of relying on the inefficient nanny state to do it.

instead, I'll just be quiet and let the left act like conservatives to spite Trump.

One would hope you are bright enough to realize that though these states are indeed giving Trump the finger, the primary motivation for this would likely be that they were going to do it anyway due to the simple realities of the ongoing switch to cheaper and more dependable renewable energy sources. Coal is now more expensive than solar even when subsidy is considered. Oil is less attractive and more expensive to use than wind.
The environmental benefits are a secondary and somewhat arbitrary aspect of what is happening as technology drives the world away from carbon based fuel.
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Old June 13th, 2017, 07:59 AM   #17
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One would hope you are bright enough to realize that though these states are indeed giving Trump the finger, the primary motivation for this would likely be that they were going to do it anyway due to the simple realities of the ongoing switch to cheaper and more dependable renewable energy sources. Coal is now more expensive than solar even when subsidy is considered. Oil is less attractive and more expensive to use than wind.
The environmental benefits are a secondary and somewhat arbitrary aspect of what is happening as technology drives the world away from carbon based fuel.

We can just assume that every statement you make in relation to a Trump post begins with "One would hope you are bright enough to realize..."

Or perhaps abbreviate it to (OWHYABETR...)

Either way is fine with me.

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Old June 13th, 2017, 08:04 AM   #18
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...the primary motivation for this would likely be that they were going to do it anyway due to the simple realities of the ongoing switch to cheaper and more dependable renewable energy sources. Coal is now more expensive than solar even when subsidy is considered. Oil is less attractive and more expensive to use than wind.
The environmental benefits are a secondary and somewhat arbitrary aspect of what is happening as technology drives the world away from carbon based fuel.
You seem to be making the same point as Trump which is:

the Paris agreement is not needed.
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Old June 13th, 2017, 12:58 PM   #19
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You seem to be making the same point as Trump which is:

the Paris agreement is not needed.
I suppose my commentary could be twisted in such a way...though such aerobics cannot be good for the spine, I guess it would not matter if you don't have one.
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Old June 14th, 2017, 07:32 AM   #20
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We can just assume that every statement you make in relation to a Trump post begins with "One would hope you are bright enough to realize..."

Or perhaps abbreviate it to (OWHYABETR...)

Either way is fine with me.
I reserve such commentary for those who do not seem well informed on the subject being discussed. Your ineffective and telling defensive posture is very interesting however.
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