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Old September 1st, 2017, 03:47 AM   #1
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Has China ever hoped to teach NKorea the same lessons as India?

1. The following are excerpts from the 30 August 2017 AFP news report headlined "China says it hopes India will 'learn lessons' from standoff" at https://sg.yahoo.com/news/china-says...065248645.html

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China said Wednesday it hopes India will "learn lessons" following the end of a months-long military stand-off in a strategically important disputed area in the Himalayas.

The two nations resolved the deadlock over the Doklam area claimed by both China and Bhutan, an ally of India, just days before Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi is expected to attend a BRICS summit in eastern China.

"Of course we hope the Indian side will learn lessons from this incident and prevent similar things from happening again," Foreign Minister Wang Yi told a news briefing on the upcoming BRICS summit, which includes both nations as well as Brazil, Russia and South Africa....

The foreign minister did not say whether Chinese President Xi Jinping and Modi would hold bilateral talks on the sidelines of the BRICS summit next week in the port city of Xiamen.

"The first thing is whether the leaders have the willingness to meet," Wang said.

"If there's a willingness from the leaders participating (in BRICS), the Chinese side will try to make it possible if our schedule permits." (End excerpts)

2. Wang Yi's remarks raise some interesting questions. Firstly, will there be more lessons for Modi if the schedule of his Chinese "teacher" permits?

Secondly, why the US can "tame" all its allies including Japan and South Korea but China cannot do so with its North Korean ally?

Thirdly, if China had taught North Korea some lessons immediately after the Korean War, can it keep the rogue state on the leash instead of the other way round? It is interesting to note that China has never openly slammed North Korea for its insubordination and unruliness, not to mention teaching it the same lessons as it has claimed to teach India.
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Old September 1st, 2017, 04:05 AM   #2
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1. The following are excerpts from the 30 August 2017 AFP news report headlined "China says it hopes India will 'learn lessons' from standoff" at https://sg.yahoo.com/news/china-says...065248645.html

(Begin excerpts)
China said Wednesday it hopes India will "learn lessons" following the end of a months-long military stand-off in a strategically important disputed area in the Himalayas.

The two nations resolved the deadlock over the Doklam area claimed by both China and Bhutan, an ally of India, just days before Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi is expected to attend a BRICS summit in eastern China.

"Of course we hope the Indian side will learn lessons from this incident and prevent similar things from happening again," Foreign Minister Wang Yi told a news briefing on the upcoming BRICS summit, which includes both nations as well as Brazil, Russia and South Africa....

The foreign minister did not say whether Chinese President Xi Jinping and Modi would hold bilateral talks on the sidelines of the BRICS summit next week in the port city of Xiamen.

"The first thing is whether the leaders have the willingness to meet," Wang said.

"If there's a willingness from the leaders participating (in BRICS), the Chinese side will try to make it possible if our schedule permits." (End excerpts)

2. Wang Yi's remarks raise some interesting questions. Firstly, will there be more lessons for Modi if the schedule of his Chinese "teacher" permits?

Secondly, why the US can "tame" all its allies including Japan and South Korea but China cannot do so with its North Korean ally?

Thirdly, if China had taught North Korea some lessons immediately after the Korean War, can it keep the rogue state on the leash instead of the other way round? It is interesting to note that China has never openly slammed North Korea for its insubordination and unruliness, not to mention teaching it the same lessons as it has claimed to teach India.
Insanity is not conducive to control, China cannot change lil' kimmys version.
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Old September 15th, 2017, 09:57 AM   #3
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Insanity is not conducive to control, China cannot change lil' kimmys version.
Like his late father Kim Jong-il, Fatboy Kim is feigning insanity. He is just following his late father's plan of finishing the unfinished business of the 1950 Korean War to sudue the South and rule the Korean Peninsula under the banner of the Kim Dynasty using nuclear blackmail.

The only dumb people are the Chinese leaders who ignore the rogue state's military buildup and nuclear programme at their peril. Using an analogy, if we take the North Korean war machine as the Colossus of Rhodes, China's economic lifeline and military protection are the two legs that keep it from collapsing. The swift collapse of the Mongol Empire and the Qin Dynasty shows that a country that focuses on militarism at the expense of its own people's welfare cannot last forever.

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1. The following are excerpts from the 30 August 2017 AFP news report headlined "China says it hopes India will 'learn lessons' from standoff" at https://sg.yahoo.com/news/china-says...065248645.html

(Begin excerpts)
China said Wednesday it hopes India will "learn lessons" following the end of a months-long military stand-off in a strategically important disputed area in the Himalayas.

The two nations resolved the deadlock over the Doklam area claimed by both China and Bhutan, an ally of India, just days before Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi is expected to attend a BRICS summit in eastern China.

"Of course we hope the Indian side will learn lessons from this incident and prevent similar things from happening again," Foreign Minister Wang Yi told a news briefing on the upcoming BRICS summit, which includes both nations as well as Brazil, Russia and South Africa....

The foreign minister did not say whether Chinese President Xi Jinping and Modi would hold bilateral talks on the sidelines of the BRICS summit next week in the port city of Xiamen.

"The first thing is whether the leaders have the willingness to meet," Wang said.

"If there's a willingness from the leaders participating (in BRICS), the Chinese side will try to make it possible if our schedule permits." (End excerpts)

2. Wang Yi's remarks raise some interesting questions. Firstly, will there be more lessons for Modi if the schedule of his Chinese "teacher" permits?

Secondly, why the US can "tame" all its allies including Japan and South Korea but China cannot do so with its North Korean ally?

Thirdly, if China had taught North Korea some lessons immediately after the Korean War, can it keep the rogue state on the leash instead of the other way round? It is interesting to note that China has never openly slammed North Korea for its insubordination and unruliness, not to mention teaching it the same lessons as it has claimed to teach India.
Just like any other human culture, or human being, there is what they say and what they do.

No doubt that China has a much tighter rein on NK, and "fearless leader", than they are letting on. It's not in China's best interests to see WWIII started by an insane asshole.

It's also not in China's best interests to see the NK collapse and see 25 million starving North Koreans flee north over the Yalu River. You think Europe has a problem with Syrian refugees? Consider that problem.
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Like his late father Kim Jong-il, Fatboy Kim is feigning insanity. He is just following his late father's plan of finishing the unfinished business of the 1950 Korean War to sudue the South and rule the Korean Peninsula under the banner of the Kim Dynasty using nuclear blackmail.

The only dumb people are the Chinese leaders who ignore the rogue state's military buildup and nuclear programme at their peril. Using an analogy, if we take the North Korean war machine as the Colossus of Rhodes, China's economic lifeline and military protection are the two legs that keep it from collapsing. The swift collapse of the Mongol Empire and the Qin Dynasty shows that a country that focuses on militarism at the expense of its own people's welfare cannot last forever.
Fatboy is a spoiled despot. His life will be far shorter than his father's and it will be because of the Chinese.
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Let's hope!!!
Agreed.

I have no doubt China has insiders inside the DPRK government and enough control that if Fatboy did something stupid, he'd be neutralized one way or another.
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It's also not in China's best interests to see the NK collapse and see 25 million starving North Koreans flee north over the Yalu River. You think Europe has a problem with Syrian refugees? Consider that problem.
The scenario of 25 million starving North Koreans fleeing north over the Yalu River is a small price for China to pay compared with the horrible scenario of a future nuclear war with the rogue state. Besides the unresolved territorial issues, please take note of the numerous border wars between the ancient Korean kingdoms and Chinese dynasties.

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