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Old March 6th, 2018, 03:08 PM   #1
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North Korea willing to abandon nukes

1. According to https://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/world...cid=spartandhp

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Kim Jong Un is willing to give up nuclear weapons if the security of his regime is guaranteed, says South Korea, after he reportedly said it was the last wish of his father.

An envoy from Seoul made the announcement after meeting the North Korean leader, who is also said to be open to "frank" talks with the US...

"The North made clear its willingness for the denuclearisation of the Korean peninsula, and made clear that there is no reason to own nuclear (programmes) if military threats towards the North are cleared and the security of its regime is guaranteed," said the South's national security adviser, Chung Eui-yong...

"Chairman Kim said that even denuclearisation could be among the agenda items for talks between North Korea and the US," a South Korean official told the country's Yonhap news agency.

Kim Jong Un "made clear that achieving denuclearisation is his father's dying wish and that it has not been changed at all", according to the official who was speaking anonymously... (End excerpts)

2. According to the article entitled North Korea: Why it wants nuclear weapons and China can?t stop it

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Former leader Kim Jong-il revised the constitution to state that he had “transferred the country into an undefeated country with strong political ideology, a nuclear power state, and invincible military power”. (End excerpts)

Hence it is an outright lie for Tubby Kim to claim that "achieving denuclearisation is his father's dying wish". How can Uncle Sam trust Kim's sincerity in denuclearisation?

3. Summary

First of all, North Korea's security is easily guaranteed. Just hold an international conference and let all the five nuclear powers and all other countries sign on paper to guarantee its security.

Does a country need nuclear weapons for its long-term survival? Just look at Vietnam and Taiwan. Do they need nuclear weapons to guarantee their survival against China? Hence it is just a lame excuse for North Korea to claim that it needs nuclear weapons for its long-term survival. Its security has been guaranteed by Russia and China in particular since the 1950 Korean War, otherwise American troops could have chased the rogue regime out of the Korean Peninsula long ago.

Secondly, don't rejoice over the "huge news and major breakthrough" that North Korea is willing to give up its nuclear programme. North Korea is a hard nut to crack as the rogue state is very cunning and creative in the way that it goes about sanctions evasion. Its latest move is the most cunning and creative of all as it helps the rogue regime not only to evade but lift sanctions.

For the first time since advancing all the way westward from Europe across America to Asia, the descendants of early European settlers encounter a "Red Indian tribe" that is difficult to deal with. If the American natives were as crafty and creative as the North Koreans, the history of America and the world would be entirely different.

The main problem for America and the international community is the fact that it is absolutely impossible to denuclearise a free nuclear-armed state for the following reasons:

(a) According to Arthur Waldron, a professor of international relations with the University of Pennsylvania in the article entitled It?s time to accept nuclear-armed North Korea, policy experts say | South China Morning Post

“There’s no such thing as a surgical strike that will take out all of North Korea’s missiles. North Korea is 48,000 square miles – the size of England or Pennsylvania – and everything is underground,” he said, adding that it was also impossible to verify denuclearisation.

(b) The first reason explains North Korea's sudden flurry of activities to accelerate its nuclear programme last year. Impossible to verify denuclearisation is equivalent to impossible to denuclearise a free nuclear-armed state. North Korea can easily hide a few nuclear weapons somewhere in the mountains or underground, and bring them out to turn the South into "a sea of fire" when necessary.

Unlike imperial Japan and Nazi Germany, North Korea is not a defeated country in a war. The US cannot station a governing body or troops to search every nook and cranny of the country for any hidden nuclear weapon.

(c) After the surrender of Nazi Germany and Japan at the end of World War 2, the US had the authority to disband all the military organisations in the two countries. Uncle Sam could even recruit the scientists of the two countries and brought them to America to help in the development of US rockets and other weapons. North Korea certainly won't let the US to disband all its military organisations. It will continue training and upgrading the skills of its nuclear scientists whose expertise can be fully utilised when the time is ripe for it to breach any agreement or obligation with the US.

(d) After the lifting of the sanctions, North Korea will have free access to capital and technology to accelerate its nuclear programme.

(e) Japan was forced to enact a pacifist constitution after surrendering to the US. Postwar Japan formally renounced the sovereign right of belligerency and aimed at an international peace based on justice and order. To accomplish the pacifist aims, Japan vowed not to maintain armed forces with war potential. Can the US force North Korea to enact a pacifist constitution in exchange for the lifting of sanctions?

P.S. The North Korean nuclear saga shows that a large state often resorts to brute force but a small weak state needs no super weapons but brains for survival. Since North Korea can survive with smart brains, why does it need nuclear weapons? History will tell in the future.

https://globalnews.ca/news/3448765/n...clear-weapons/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surrender_of_Japan

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/north-k...-target-south/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Articl...e_Constitution

https://www.loc.gov/law/help/japan-c...n/article9.php

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I'll believe it, when I see it!!!

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Best top remember. always, that anyone who gave up 'weapons of mass destruction' was murdered soon afterwards.
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Best top remember. always, that anyone who gave up 'weapons of mass destruction' was murdered soon afterwards.
Who were those people who "gave up" weapons of mass destruction?
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Who were those people who "gave up" weapons of mass destruction?
The one-time governments of Iran and Libya might repay your deep, democratic study. Heil Trump and total popular ignorance.
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The one-time governments of Iran and Libya might repay your deep, democratic study. Heil Trump and total popular ignorance.
Interesting. You are now admitting that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.

Iraq and Syria did not willingly give up their weapons of mass destruction. We are asking NK to willingly give up their weapons of mass destruction. Big difference. Most likely Kim would survive giving up his WMDs willingly.

Do you sympathize with Qaddafi and Saddam? I thought their "murder" was a good thing.
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Interesting. You are now admitting that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.
How idiotic can you be? Iolo wrote "Iran", not "Iraq"!

Iraq never had those "weapons of mass destruction;" that brainwashing blitz was simply done to get the US military machine into the Middle East to wreak havoc and murder.

GW Bush and his abettors should be slowly torn to pieces as monstrous war criminals.
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How idiotic can you be? Iolo wrote "Iran", not "Iraq"!

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I figured Iolo made a mistake because Iran did not fit her rhetoric.

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How idiotic can you be? Iolo wrote "Iran", not "Iraq"!

Iraq never had those "weapons of mass destruction;" that brainwashing blitz was simply done to get the US military machine into the Middle East to wreak havoc and murder.

GW Bush and his abettors should be slowly torn to pieces as monstrous war criminals.
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So the thousands of Kurds just imagined they were gassed to death.
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Old March 9th, 2018, 03:32 PM   #10
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As one Iraqi woman said:

Before the US invasion, we thought living under Saddam was Hell, and the USA would bring us Heaven.

After the invasion, we thought living under Saddam was Heaven, and the USA brought us into Hell."

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As one Iraqi woman said:

Before the US invasion, we thought living under Saddam was Hell, and the USA would bring us Heaven.

After the invasion, we thought living under Saddam was Heaven, and the USA brought us into Hell."

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And thousands/millions say the opposite.
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And thousands/millions say the opposite.
Only the thousands and millions of insane voices that inhabit what passes for your brain.
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