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Old February 9th, 2017, 10:08 AM   #41
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But..... he has ZERO history as President. So KINDLY give him a chance!!!
He has a two week history indicating his choices for staffing and policy direction none of which indicates any intent to deal with infrastructure or betterment of the typical American. and in many ways indicate the opposite. That you cannot see this extremely obvious reality does not change the fact it exists.
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Old February 9th, 2017, 10:16 AM   #42
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He has a two week history indicating his choices for staffing and policy direction none of which indicates any intent to deal with infrastructure or betterment of the typical American. and in many ways indicate the opposite. That you cannot see this extremely obvious reality does not change the fact it exists.
So his talk about "infrastructure improvement" went:



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So his talk about "infrastructure improvement" went:

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Trump TALKS about a great many things, few are acted upon. He has done a few of the things he said in his campaign but, most are being challenged as either unconstitutional or not taken seriously enough by congress to go forward. He says he will build his wall for example and make Mexico pay for it, but his "Plan" now involves a tariff that we Americans will pay at the store because his "negotiation skills" completely failed.
His "Muslim Ban" not only avoids dealing with the nations that have given us wonderful terrorists because he can make money there but is obviously unconstitutional. He "drains the swamp" by opening the flood gates to wall street chums and giving them keys to the vault.

Basically he is lying to you and you are not bright enough to even see it. Perhaps when you lose your healthcare coverage or the markets go back to losing your money it might kick in......but, I doubt it.
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Trump TALKS about a great many things, few are acted upon. He has done a few of the things he said in his campaign but, most are being challenged as either unconstitutional or not taken seriously enough by congress to go forward. He says he will build his wall for example and make Mexico pay for it, but his "Plan" now involves a tariff that we Americans will pay at the store because his "negotiation skills" completely failed.
His "Muslim Ban" not only avoids dealing with the nations that have given us wonderful terrorists because he can make money there but is obviously unconstitutional. He "drains the swamp" by opening the flood gates to wall street chums and giving them keys to the vault.

Basically he is lying to you and you are not bright enough to even see it. Perhaps when you lose your healthcare coverage or the markets go back to losing your money it might kick in......but, I doubt it.
Wake up!!! NOWHERE in the Executive Order does it mention Muslims whatsoever. It is totally a country temporary restriction, and not a single iota of a Muslim ban. If you can't see that, then you are acting like:

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Wake up!!! NOWHERE in the Executive Order does it mention Muslims whatsoever. It is totally a country temporary restriction, and not a single iota of a Muslim ban. If you can't see that, then you are acting like:

One is simply left to wonder if you ever review data outside the cute girls of Fox news because this silly talking point is an indication of serious kool aid consumption....I believe we are done here as there is no further point.

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One is simply left to wonder if you ever review data outside the cute girls of Fox news because this silly talking point is an indication of serious kool aid consumption....I believe we are done here as there is no further point.

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I'm STILL trying to figure out what a "rescission" is!!! (
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But..... he has ZERO history as President. So KINDLY give him a chance!!!
Nothing that the Incompetent-in-Chief has done during the transition and in the last 3 weeks since infesting the Whitehouse has demonstrated any alteration from his former unlawful behavior.

And note that the Great Orange Dope has been asked to change his behavior on many occasions to no avail. It was so bad that they confiscated his tweet account towards the end of the election.

His history of aberrant behavior has been documented over the decades.

It is foolhardy to expect that he will actually grow up and mature now that he is approaching senility and Alzheimers.
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alteration from his former unlawful behavior.
Kindly list:

(A) His arrests.

(B) His Trials.

(C) His punishments; fines and/or jail sentences and/or paroles.

If you can't list any at all, then you are a silly slugnut.
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(A) His arrests.

(B) His Trials.

(C) His punishments; fines and/or jail sentences and/or paroles.

If you can't list any at all, then you are a silly slugnut.
Trump has failed to honor his legal obligations to pay hardworking Americans in violation of the law.

Trump has violated the law by discriminating against African Americans.

Trump has molested women in violation of the law.

Trump has employed illegal aliens which is a violation of the law.

Trump has operated several illegal scams like Trump University in order to defraud hardworking Americans of their money.

Trump's immigration EO is unconstitutional which is a violation of the law.

Just because someone does not have a rap sheet does not mean that they abide by the law. Trump has had 4 bankruptcies files and 3,700 court cases where he is accused of wrongdoing. That is not how normal people run their businesses.
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Trump has failed to honor his legal obligations to pay hardworking Americans in violation of the law.

Trump has violated the law by discriminating against African Americans.

Trump has molested women in violation of the law.

Trump has employed illegal aliens which is a violation of the law.

Trump has operated several illegal scams like Trump University in order to defraud hardworking Americans of their money.

Trump's immigration EO is unconstitutional which is a violation of the law.

Just because someone does not have a rap sheet does not mean that they abide by the law. Trump has had 4 bankruptcies files and 3,700 court cases where he is accused of wrongdoing. That is not how normal people run their businesses.
Many of those are simply not factual, and NONE of them meet (B) thru (C) regarding actual criminality. Back to the drawing board for you!
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Many of those are simply not factual, and NONE of them meet (B) thru (C) regarding actual criminality. Back to the drawing board for you!
A criminal is someone who has been convicted of a crime.

What I posted was that the Incompetent-in-Chief has acted UNLAWFULLY.

If you don't understand the difference that is not my problem.
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Old February 12th, 2017, 04:42 AM   #53
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A criminal is someone who has been convicted of a crime.

What I posted was that the Incompetent-in-Chief has acted UNLAWFULLY.

If you don't understand the difference that is not my problem.
People who are charged with crimes did something UNLAWFULLY.

People who do something UNLAWFULLY, are charged with crimes.

Since no charge of a crime, or any sign of one forthcoming is apparent, it means there has been no UNLAWFUL act identified, and therefore does NOT exist. Is is simple logic really. Please try to under stand it!
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People who are charged with crimes did something UNLAWFULLY.

People who do something UNLAWFULLY, are charged with crimes.

Since no charge of a crime, or any sign of one forthcoming is apparent, it means there has been no UNLAWFUL act identified, and therefore does NOT exist. Is is simple logic really. Please try to under stand it!
Untrue....many unlawful acts are not charged for many reasons. Some are not noted others are settled (as in Trump University) and some simply fined.
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Untrue....many unlawful acts are not charged for many reasons. Some are not noted others are settled (as in Trump University) and some simply fined.
VAST majority ARE (unless immunity is given to testify against SOMEONE ELSE; a so-called BIGGER FISH). So the HUGE odds are, that he would indeed have been charged by law enforcement for a crime had one been actually been committed (since Trump IS the BIG fish).

OK, just for sake of argument, which crime(s) does anyone somehow believe he committed? Thanks!

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OK, just for sake of argument, which crime(s) does anyone somehow believe he committed? Thanks!
"Trump and his father were sued by the federal government for housing discrimination in the 1970’s for refusing to rent to blacks after an uncover investigation. They lost, signed a consent decree, and were forced to desegregate their properties, which they later violated.
-He is being charged with fraud in connection with Trump University. Eric Schneiderman, the Attorney General of New York, who is prosecuting Trump, told CNN, “If you look at the facts of this case, this shows someone who was absolutely shameless in his willingness to lie to people, to say whatever it took to induce them into his phony seminars. Telling people who are in hard economic times — we’re talking about 2008, 2009 — people desperate to hold onto their homes, to make some money, convincing them that he will teach them his entrepreneurial secrets.”
- Trump Tower was built using undocumented Polish laborers to demolish the building that previously stood on the site. At trial, the workers testified they worked without basic safety equipment like hardhats and gloves and they were supposed to earn $5 an hour from Trump’s low-bid contractor. But court documents show that for weeks, they were paid nothing. An NBC News story in which numerous witnesses were interviewed showed that Trump knew about the undocumented, unpaid workers. Yet under oath, Trump testified that he knew nothing, thus adding perjury allegations to the labor law violations.
-Trump is alleged to have violated immigration laws in hiring foreign models for Trump Model Management. These models worked illegally, and he failed to pay them fairly. Two of the former Trump models said Trump’s agency encouraged them to deceive customs officials about why they were visiting the United States and told them to lie on customs forms about where they intended to live. “It’s like modern-day slavery,” one model told Mother Jones. Senator Barbara Boxer has called for the Department of Homeland Security to investigate Trump for human trafficking in relation to Trump Model Management.
- Trump’s charitable foundation appears to have repeatedly broken IRS rules, according to the Washington Post. In five cases, the Trump Foundation told the IRS that it had given a gift to a charity whose leaders told The Post that they had never received it. In two other cases, companies listed as donors to the Trump Foundation told The Post that those listings were incorrect.
-His charitable foundation violated tax laws by giving a $25,000 political contribution to a campaign group connected to Florida’s attorney general, Pam Bondi, in 2013. As a registered nonprofit, the Trump Foundation was not allowed to make political donations. He paid a $2,500 fine.
-Trump is accused of bribing the Attorney General of Florida, Pam Bondi to drop her investigation of Trump University. She successfully solicited a donation from him before the fraud case, and afterward, he held a fundraiser for her at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach.
-In 2007 and in 2012, Trump and his wife bought two gifts for themselves at charity events for his foundation, totaling $32,000, breaking IRS rules. One gift was a $20,000 painting of himself.
-A deposition describes him raping his first wife Ivana, pulling out fistfuls of her hair in a fit of rage, stripping off her clothes, then penetrating her forcefully without her consent, after which she hid in a locked room and cried all night, as revealed in the 1993 book Lost Tycoon: The Many Lives of Donald J. Trump, and described in a Daily Beast article. The divorce was granted on grounds of Donald’s “cruel and inhuman treatment” of Ivana.
-He is currently being charged with child rape in a case for which there is an eyewitness and credible information to support the claim. The woman filing suit in April 2016 claims that as a 13-year-old in 1994, she was enticed to attend parties with the promise of money and modeling jobs at the home of Jeffrey Epstein, a Level 3 registered sex offender (the most dangerous kind), after Epstein was convicted of misconduct with another underage girl.
The woman alleges Trump initiated sexual contact with her on four separate occasions, with the fourth being a “savage sexual attack” in which he tied her to a bed and forcibly raped her while she pleaded with him to stop. He threatened that she and her family would be “physically harmed if not killed” if she ever revealed what was done. The eyewitness, Epstein’s party planner wrote, “I am coming forward to swear to the truthfulness of the physical and sexual abuse that I personally witnessed of minor females at the hands of Mr. Trump and Mr. Epstein . . . I swear to these facts under the penalty for perjury even though I fully understand that the life of myself and my family is now in grave danger.” Trump told a reporter a few years ago: “I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side . . .”



That should do.....for now.
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"Trump and his father were sued by the federal government for housing discrimination in the 1970’s for refusing to rent to blacks after an uncover investigation. They lost, signed a consent decree, and were forced to desegregate their properties, which they later violated.
-He is being charged with fraud in connection with Trump University. Eric Schneiderman, the Attorney General of New York, who is prosecuting Trump, told CNN, “If you look at the facts of this case, this shows someone who was absolutely shameless in his willingness to lie to people, to say whatever it took to induce them into his phony seminars. Telling people who are in hard economic times — we’re talking about 2008, 2009 — people desperate to hold onto their homes, to make some money, convincing them that he will teach them his entrepreneurial secrets.”
- Trump Tower was built using undocumented Polish laborers to demolish the building that previously stood on the site. At trial, the workers testified they worked without basic safety equipment like hardhats and gloves and they were supposed to earn $5 an hour from Trump’s low-bid contractor. But court documents show that for weeks, they were paid nothing. An NBC News story in which numerous witnesses were interviewed showed that Trump knew about the undocumented, unpaid workers. Yet under oath, Trump testified that he knew nothing, thus adding perjury allegations to the labor law violations.
-Trump is alleged to have violated immigration laws in hiring foreign models for Trump Model Management. These models worked illegally, and he failed to pay them fairly. Two of the former Trump models said Trump’s agency encouraged them to deceive customs officials about why they were visiting the United States and told them to lie on customs forms about where they intended to live. “It’s like modern-day slavery,” one model told Mother Jones. Senator Barbara Boxer has called for the Department of Homeland Security to investigate Trump for human trafficking in relation to Trump Model Management.
- Trump’s charitable foundation appears to have repeatedly broken IRS rules, according to the Washington Post. In five cases, the Trump Foundation told the IRS that it had given a gift to a charity whose leaders told The Post that they had never received it. In two other cases, companies listed as donors to the Trump Foundation told The Post that those listings were incorrect.
-His charitable foundation violated tax laws by giving a $25,000 political contribution to a campaign group connected to Florida’s attorney general, Pam Bondi, in 2013. As a registered nonprofit, the Trump Foundation was not allowed to make political donations. He paid a $2,500 fine.
-Trump is accused of bribing the Attorney General of Florida, Pam Bondi to drop her investigation of Trump University. She successfully solicited a donation from him before the fraud case, and afterward, he held a fundraiser for her at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach.
-In 2007 and in 2012, Trump and his wife bought two gifts for themselves at charity events for his foundation, totaling $32,000, breaking IRS rules. One gift was a $20,000 painting of himself.
-A deposition describes him raping his first wife Ivana, pulling out fistfuls of her hair in a fit of rage, stripping off her clothes, then penetrating her forcefully without her consent, after which she hid in a locked room and cried all night, as revealed in the 1993 book Lost Tycoon: The Many Lives of Donald J. Trump, and described in a Daily Beast article. The divorce was granted on grounds of Donald’s “cruel and inhuman treatment” of Ivana.
-He is currently being charged with child rape in a case for which there is an eyewitness and credible information to support the claim. The woman filing suit in April 2016 claims that as a 13-year-old in 1994, she was enticed to attend parties with the promise of money and modeling jobs at the home of Jeffrey Epstein, a Level 3 registered sex offender (the most dangerous kind), after Epstein was convicted of misconduct with another underage girl.
The woman alleges Trump initiated sexual contact with her on four separate occasions, with the fourth being a “savage sexual attack” in which he tied her to a bed and forcibly raped her while she pleaded with him to stop. He threatened that she and her family would be “physically harmed if not killed” if she ever revealed what was done. The eyewitness, Epstein’s party planner wrote, “I am coming forward to swear to the truthfulness of the physical and sexual abuse that I personally witnessed of minor females at the hands of Mr. Trump and Mr. Epstein . . . I swear to these facts under the penalty for perjury even though I fully understand that the life of myself and my family is now in grave danger.” Trump told a reporter a few years ago: “I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side . . .”



That should do.....for now.
Ancient history stuff, LONG settled. But nothing actually current, eh? (of course not).
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Old February 12th, 2017, 07:15 AM   #58
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Ancient history stuff, LONG settled. But nothing actually current, eh? (of course not).
I will not be goaded with new goalposts....Have A Nice Day
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Old February 12th, 2017, 07:33 AM   #59
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I will not be goaded with new goalposts....Have A Nice Day
aka, nothing further to say! aka beating a dead horse!

BTW: No new goalposts. They always were about, CURRENT, ongoing issues. After all, there is no point in discussing water under the bridge, as they ALL were known about BEFORE the election!
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