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Old February 23rd, 2014, 06:24 AM   #41
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I find it quite odd indeed that you loath people simply because they are smart shoppers. Just because you lack the knack to find great deal is not a good reason to hate!!!




How does it matter one iota if Joan Smith gets her great deals from a small chain store, or great big huge Wal Mart??? The bottom line, is that either way she has leftover money for other things (food, medicine, etc.), and is less likely to cross into in poverty due to increase buying power!
Did I state a loathing for ANYONE?....or did I mention that a tend to avoid certain people? I freely admit I avoid unattractive people, because they are....well....unattractive. The local Walmart here has more than a few of the "People of Walmart" as seen in the youtube music video.

In addition, when I buy groceries I have found lower prices elsewhere and thus shop in those places. My biggest beef however would be the position taken by the company that it's employees should apply for government assistance to compensate for the compensation they receive for working.
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Old February 23rd, 2014, 06:54 AM   #42
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I freely admit I avoid unattractive people, because they are....well....unattractive.
Well, you could always live like a hermit like Ted Kaczynski and you'll NEVER have to see other people!

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Old February 23rd, 2014, 01:29 PM   #43
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Well, you could always live like a hermit like Ted Kaczynski and you'll NEVER have to see other people!

~OR~......I could do as I currently do, and try to avoid them.
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Old February 23rd, 2014, 01:34 PM   #44
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~OR~......I could do as I currently do, and try to avoid them.
How? They are everywhere.
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Old February 23rd, 2014, 01:49 PM   #45
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I do not "Hate" the shoppers in Walmart...though I do note they are generally unpleasant to see and fall into a class of society I tend to avoid. This may be a localized reality based upon my location and state, but it is there nonetheless.

I try to stay away from our local Walmart because I feel the business practices of the company do not jive with my ethical beliefs...and though I accept that the company provides quite a bit of opportunity and employment, the lack of a living wage is disturbing to me, and because of it's size...likely contributes to the increase in poverty.

My brother in law is a buyer for Costco, and having researched the comparison between these two companies, it is very clear Walmart could and should be doing more for its employee base and would still be very profitable.
Good for you. Opinion noted. So what is the point?
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Old February 28th, 2014, 07:14 AM   #46
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Well I ran a poll at discussanything.com and it had the choice of loving, hating, or being neutral/having no opinion on Wal Mart.

Well, 69 viewed the poll, and three (3) actually took the poll. This tells me by a wide margin, most everybody is neutral on Wal Mart.

Two (2) said they loved it

One (1) said they hated it

Poll: Loving Or Hating Wal Mart Poll

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Old January 23rd, 2015, 07:36 PM   #47
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Walmart sells knock off junk, has horrible CS and is bad to its employees. Naturally this upsets people as does people not giving a crap and shopping there anyway. Throw in Walmart's low prices attracting poor, illiterate trash (white or otherwise) and you get the negative stereotype.

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If any of those ramblings were true, they would not have been in business and expanding this long.
The quote “Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public” is attributed to H.L. Menchen

I do not mention this as relative to the practices or the merchandise of Walmart but rather as a response to your contention that the quality of a retailers' services and merchandise certainly are indicated by the extent of their enterprise’s commercial success.
As Cole Porter wrote, “It ain’t necessarily so.

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Old January 23rd, 2015, 07:39 PM   #48
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Walmart sells knock off junk, has horrible CS and is bad to it's employees. Naturally this upsets people as does people not giving a crap and shopping there anyway. Throw in Walmart's low prices attracting poor, illiterate trash (white or otherwise) and you get the negative stereotype.
Case and point. Somebody doesn't like wal Mart thus it's bad and people that shop there are illiterate and trash.

Way to be a hater.
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Old January 23rd, 2015, 07:54 PM   #49
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People buy what they can afford. Poor people have needs too. I remember stores that were here before Walmart. Walmart put about half of them out of business. So in some cases it is go to Walmart or drive 40 miles one way to buy the same product just to feel superior to other people.

If I had more money I would just have everything delivered! Yeah, that would make me a big shot!
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Old January 23rd, 2015, 09:42 PM   #50
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People buy what they can afford. Poor people have needs too. I remember stores that were here before Walmart. Walmart put about half of them out of business. So in some cases it is go to Walmart or drive 40 miles one way to buy the same product just to feel superior to other people.

If I had more money I would just have everything delivered! Yeah, that would make me a big shot!
No you would be a big shot if you had everything made by an artisan Peruvian wood carver
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Old January 24th, 2015, 06:38 AM   #51
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No you would be a big shot if you had everything made by an artisan Peruvian wood carver
I don't believe I know any of those. Can you recommend a couple of good ones?
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Old January 24th, 2015, 12:01 PM   #52
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I don't believe I know any of those. Can you recommend a couple of good ones?
You shouldn't take my recommendation I'm not a big shot.
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Old March 27th, 2015, 05:46 PM   #53
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Aufgeblassen, it is unreasonable to blame retailers or their customers for what are reasonably predictable behaviors motivated by their need to function within their environment.

To the extent that their customers prefer imported goods, retailers are motivated to stock and sell such goods. To the extent that similar goods are less expensive to produce some particular goods within foreign nations, it is reasonable that customers choose the lesser priced goods among similar goods of similar quality.
Purchasers penalize themselves, and their families or their enterprises if they do not strive for “the best deals” they can obtain.

What parties entering into a mutual agreement believe to be in their own best interests are usually, but not always in the best interests of their societies.
There are many types of mutually entered agreements that legislators specifically described and indentified as contrary to the society within their government’s jurisdiction. Within the laws and regulations of all levels of USA governments, (e.g. federal, state or lesser jurisdictions) there are types of transactions that are identified as being illegal.

I’m among the proponents of a specific Import Certificate policy for our nation’s global trade. That’s a market driven policy that would significantly reduce USA’s annual trade deficits of goods, indirectly but effectively subsidize exports of USA goods, and increase our jobs and median wage more than otherwise. This policy’s entire direct government expenditures would be funded by USA purchasers and users of foreign goods.

Google Wikipedia‘s article entitled “Import Certificates”
or
the paragraphs entitled “Trade balances’ affects upon their nation’s GDP” excerpted from Wikipedia’s article entitled “Balance of trade “
or refer to the thread
Reduce the trade deficit; increase GDP & median wage .

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Old March 28th, 2015, 02:38 AM   #54
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Your opinion is really irrelevant.
Then....what is the point of forum discussion?

Walmart, in my opinion, is generally considered to be pariah by those of the middle class, upper class, and those in the lower class striving for the middle. Having the need to shop there occasionally (Pool supplies primarily), I will freely state I avoid it mostly due to the people who shop there. You may see me as uppity or trendy, as is your right....but it my right to dislike smelly fat people that dress badly.
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This may be a localized reality based upon my location and state, but it is there nonetheless.
The last time I asked for directions to Walmart, the response was "What's Walmart?" I was in South Beach.

I wouldn't say it's localized at all, any community where you wouldn't feel that way wouldn't have a Walmart in the 1st place.
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Old November 22nd, 2015, 05:55 AM   #56
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Illiterate trash?

I see a lot of black people shopping at Walmart. Are you saying they are illiterate and trash? I believe they are just doing what I'm doing: looking for the best prices on stuff.

Does being a wise shopper make you trashy and illiterate?

I've been buying Goodyear Tires from Walmart for years. Same tires as at the regular stores but for a lot less money. The road hazard warranty was always honored. I got a lot of miles out of those tires. Does that make me trashy and illiterate to want to save a buck?
But it's NOT wise. The stuff is cheap because it's subpar and it's NOT cheaper if you know how to use coupons and buy sales items. You can get twice as much for the same price at Publix with BOGO (and can empty the shelves for free if they happen to have BOGO coupons at the same time). Non-grocery items can be had for the same price or cheaper at places like Costco or Best Buy. Walmart hasn't actually had a price advantage in 10+ years now, they're just going off reputation.
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Old November 22nd, 2015, 06:04 AM   #57
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Publix sucks - WAY overpriced!

Steak is typically $10-12 per pound at Publix. Delicious store cut steak is often $4.99 a pound at Save A Lot.

You definitely do not get what you pay for at Publix, if you do your weekly routine shopping there.

About the ONLY time I got to Publix, is when they have Pepsi products on sale.
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