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Old June 1st, 2014, 03:35 PM   #1
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Cheaper to house the homeless than not?

Wouldn't be surprising if more data is collected that shows the same sort of conclusion: It's three times cheaper to give housing to the homeless than to keep them on the streets - Vox
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Old June 1st, 2014, 05:06 PM   #2
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They should use leftover Katrina trailers.

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Old June 1st, 2014, 10:51 PM   #3
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Wouldn't be surprising if more data is collected that shows the same sort of conclusion: It's three times cheaper to give housing to the homeless than to keep them on the streets - Vox
I don't think anybody keeps them on the streets I think they just wind up there. I'm not so sure giving them houses will fix it.
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Old June 3rd, 2014, 07:14 PM   #4
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I don't think anybody keeps them on the streets I think they just wind up there. I'm not so sure giving them houses will fix it.
Many of them wind up there because they don't have a place to go to. The overcrowded homeless shelters that have to turn away people especially in winter suggest that. This would change that.
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Old June 4th, 2014, 06:10 AM   #5
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Many of them wind up there because they don't have a place to go to.
They aren't trying hard enough.
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Old June 4th, 2014, 08:01 AM   #6
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They aren't trying hard enough.
I am sure you would happily explain the lack of motivation to an ex-marine with PTSD left homeless and angry.

I might recommend you get good medical insurance before you do.
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Old June 4th, 2014, 10:52 AM   #7
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Wouldn't be surprising if more data is collected that shows the same sort of conclusion: It's three times cheaper to give housing to the homeless than to keep them on the streets - Vox
i think poly nailed it. no one is "keeping them on the streets". but in framing the argument this way it opens the door for expected entitlement. like universal healthcare, "everyone is entitled to have healthcare".

One can see the socialist drift move to:

"everyone is entitled to housing"
"everyone is entitled to a job"

no one should have to work or struggle for what they get, the government should just provide it.

the problem for moving people this way is a group that wants entitlements is going to be too apathetic, lazy and sluggish to do anything for your cause. so how do you get them unified ?

take a note from hitler: add an out-group enemy; that entity, party or group that is preventing this natural entitlement...then you get people to move for your cause.

(by the way, if this VOX is one of those "data driven" news sites, i make a cause here how it is not data driven, but politically driven)

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Old June 4th, 2014, 10:54 AM   #8
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im not against the homeless and many could use more help. many are mentally ill in my estimate and some are drug users and some genuinely fell on hard times. i dont paint them with one brush and i advocate for compassion, but those that can work, should.
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Old June 4th, 2014, 02:59 PM   #9
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i've see homeless families with children here in hawaii. it is heart-breaking. they are literally just hanging out on the side-walk living in tents. meanwhile average price of a home here is nearly half a million.
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Old June 4th, 2014, 03:33 PM   #10
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i've see homeless families with children here in hawaii. it is heart-breaking. they are literally just hanging out on the side-walk living in tents. meanwhile average price of a home here is nearly half a million.
We could be like like Sweden, and everyone lives in mediocrity.
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Old June 5th, 2014, 02:54 AM   #11
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Many of them wind up there because they don't have a place to go to. The overcrowded homeless shelters that have to turn away people especially in winter suggest that. This would change that.
The millennia of trying never fixed it.
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Old June 5th, 2014, 11:17 AM   #12
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No matter how much you prop people up, they simply refuse to take the ball & run with it.
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Old November 22nd, 2015, 05:56 AM   #13
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In America, (which used to be the most prosperous country in the world before we elected the Kenyan Village Idiot) homelessness and poverty in general is a CHOICE.

People swim the Rio Grande to come to this country to WORK. They all have homes.

There is no excuse.

The homeless are on the streets mostly by choice.
...or mental illness.
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In America, (which used to be the most prosperous country in the world before we elected the Kenyan Village Idiot) homelessness and poverty in general is a CHOICE.

People swim the Rio Grande to come to this country to WORK. They all have homes.

There is no excuse.

The homeless are on the streets mostly by choice.
Show me the study that shows that to be true.
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