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Old November 27th, 2015, 11:11 AM   #1
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Trump's Empty (i.e illegal) Promise

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Old November 27th, 2015, 01:59 PM   #2
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That is the OPINION of an immigration attorney, most likely a left winger. I can understand his dilemma. A lot of his clients may lose their cheap labor.

And from the RINO FoxNews, no doubt.

It's going to happen. It isn't even going to be that hard. First, the refugees from Syria are GONE. Executive order. DONE. Period. End of argument. Our troops attack a few oil wells in Iraq, set up a safe perimeter and voila! Those refugees have a place to live. Simple. Easy.

And it's right for America.

The wall goes up. Mexico pays for it. POOF. Done.

ICE agents are tripled in number. They go into the inner cities and drag out the illegal aliens in gangs. They are the first to get the boot. OUT. DONE. Simple. Easy.

Next, INS starts doing its job and reviewing those who have overstayed their visas. Are they going to try to fight it legally, WHILE THEY ARE BREAKING THE LAW? I don't think so.

Then Trump and a Republican Congress start enforcing immigration law, starting with E-Verify. Employers of illegal aliens are arrested. Dry that market up completely and illegals have no place to go.

Then Congress DE FUNDS Sanctuary Cities. Think you can't find a few illegal aliens there? They will be easy to round up. They will be sent to their native country where they will have to get in line.

EASY. DONE.

Anything less, and you're a Democrat.
You have a chronic bad habit of misusing the phrase RINO.
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Old November 27th, 2015, 03:07 PM   #3
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That is the OPINION of an immigration attorney, most likely a left winger. I can understand his dilemma. A lot of his clients may lose their cheap labor.

And from the RINO FoxNews, no doubt.

It's going to happen. It isn't even going to be that hard. First, the refugees from Syria are GONE. Executive order. DONE. Period. End of argument. Our troops attack a few oil wells in Iraq, set up a safe perimeter and voila! Those refugees have a place to live. Simple. Easy.

And it's right for America.

The wall goes up. Mexico pays for it. POOF. Done.

ICE agents are tripled in number. They go into the inner cities and drag out the illegal aliens in gangs. They are the first to get the boot. OUT. DONE. Simple. Easy.

Next, INS starts doing its job and reviewing those who have overstayed their visas. Are they going to try to fight it legally, WHILE THEY ARE BREAKING THE LAW? I don't think so.

Then Trump and a Republican Congress start enforcing immigration law, starting with E-Verify. Employers of illegal aliens are arrested. Dry that market up completely and illegals have no place to go.

Then Congress DE FUNDS Sanctuary Cities. Think you can't find a few illegal aliens there? They will be easy to round up. They will be sent to their native country where they will have to get in line.

EASY. DONE.

Anything less, and you're a Democrat.
Do you know what else would be DONE? The US economy and the political lives of everyone that thought it was a good idea to destroy the foundations of said economy.

It all looks good on paper but there's a reason it hasn't actually happened. Time to drop the bumper sticker politics and come back to the real world.
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Old November 28th, 2015, 04:34 AM   #4
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Right now, illegal immigration IS destroying the economy, along with Democrats and RINOS. It's time for something new.


It hasn't happened because the establishment in both parties won't let it happen. Thanks to them, we're importing ISIS; we're $20 TRILLION in the hole; we have 100 MILLION out of work.

That's the legacy of today's modern Republican and Democrat parties.

THAT'S why Trump is ahead in all polls. He will fix what the Establishment broke.
Since Trump cannot be bothered to explain the ways he will accomplish...well...ANYTHING, and it seems you can do so, perhaps his #1 fan and champion can help him out and tell us all how he is going to do so?

~OR~

You can do as he does and just say he will be great...AGAIN.
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Old November 28th, 2015, 10:50 AM   #5
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I'll let him tell you.

On foreign trade:
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positio...a-trade-reform

On taking care of the vets:
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positio...ration-reforms

On taxes:
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/tax-reform

On the Second Amendment:
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positio...endment-rights

On illegal immigration:
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positio...gration-reform

More realistic details than ALL the candidates from both parties combined.
I have heard all that...I did not ask "What" he wanted to do, I want to know HOW.
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Old November 28th, 2015, 01:51 PM   #6
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I have heard all that...I did not ask "What" he wanted to do, I want to know HOW.
As I said, he says lots but is short on details. The problem is that he's NOT a conservative. Everything he says is populist BS that he has 0 history of supporting and plenty of history pushing the opposing positions. His mugshot should be in the dictionary alongside the definition of RINO.
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Old November 28th, 2015, 02:11 PM   #7
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OK, reason10: "if" Fox News is RINO then which news organization is:

(a) RNINO

and

(b) which news organization is less biased than Fox?

Huh? HUH???
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Old November 28th, 2015, 02:57 PM   #8
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As I said, he says lots but is short on details. The problem is that he's NOT a conservative. Everything he says is populist BS that he has 0 history of supporting and plenty of history pushing the opposing positions. His mugshot should be in the dictionary alongside the definition of RINO.
Apparently there is no room left after they designated me a RINO and added me to the other 4,743,622.

There are still a couple hundred actual Republicans left somewhere who are all voting for the Donald.
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Old November 28th, 2015, 03:41 PM   #9
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Apparently there is no room left after they designated me a RINO and added me to the other 4,743,622.

There are still a couple hundred actual Republicans left somewhere who are all voting for the Donald.
Considering that 99% of those throwing the RINO label around have nothing in common with Lincoln, Eisenhower or Reagan (who was basicly Obama a few decades early but his worshippers don't actually know his record), their opinions a meaningless. Anyone accuses someone of being a RINO, I automatically assume them to be RINO.

All the actual republicans have defected to the Libertarians or Dems it seems. Everyone left is either a fascists, theocrats or neo-conservatives (which are really just warmongering neo-liberals).
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Old November 28th, 2015, 03:46 PM   #10
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Considering that 99% of those throwing the RINO label around have nothing in common with Lincoln, Eisenhower or Reagan (who was basicly Obama a few decades early but his worshippers don't actually know his record), their opinions a meaningless. Anyone accuses someone of being a RINO, I automatically assume them to be RINO.

All the actual republicans have defected to the Libertarians or Dems it seems. Everyone left is either a fascists, theocrats or neo-conservatives (which are really just warmongering neo-liberals).
For myself...I did not defect, I got defected.
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For myself...I did not defect, I got defected.
To repurpose the famous quote by former Communist and Republican President Reagan: You didn't leave the Republican Party, the Republican Party left you.

I'd have thrown my lot in with the Repubs (despite by economic leftism) if they hadn't decided to go so far right that they now think Hitler was a leftist. The Dems, while not quite as batshit insane, have been a lost cause for even longer

Alas I find myself in a minor party that will never make it past local elections. We really need to switch to proportional elections because nothing we do with our current system is going to save America from going the way of the Soviets.
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Old November 28th, 2015, 05:11 PM   #12
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To repurpose the famous quote by former Communist and Republican President Reagan: You didn't leave the Republican Party, the Republican Party left you.

I'd have thrown my lot in with the Repubs (despite by economic leftism) if they hadn't decided to go so far right that they now think Hitler was a leftist. The Dems, while not quite as batshit insane, have been a lost cause for even longer

Alas I find myself in a minor party that will never make it past local elections. We really need to switch to proportional elections because nothing we do with our current system is going to save America from going the way of the Soviets.
I can agree for the most part....but cannot agree enough to pick a new party. Thus have I decided to watch from the sidelines and hope for the best. It may go south but I will be dead when it does and my kids get to decide for themselves what they get.
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Old May 17th, 2017, 10:28 AM   #13
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To repurpose the famous quote by former Communist and Republican President Reagan: You didn't leave the Republican Party, the Republican Party left you.

I'd have thrown my lot in with the Repubs (despite by economic leftism) if they hadn't decided to go so far right that they now think Hitler was a leftist. The Dems, while not quite as batshit insane, have been a lost cause for even longer

Alas I find myself in a minor party that will never make it past local elections. We really need to switch to proportional elections because nothing we do with our current system is going to save America from going the way of the Soviets.
You are absolutely and totally OUT TO LUNCH if you somehow think Reagan was a communist, you stooch!!!
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