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Old December 10th, 2015, 09:04 AM   #1
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Rubio WINS vs. Clinton; Trump Fails NATIONALLY

These are the HARD AND COLD FACTS

Read them and weep!

Rubio wins:

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Rubio vs. Clinton

Trump FAILS:

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton

A 4.9% differential between Rubio and Trump. DUMP TRUMP!!!

Like Rick from Pawn Stars predicted some time ago: Marco Rubio WILL be the next President.


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Old December 10th, 2015, 12:15 PM   #2
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Silly goose , there are no "hard and cold and erect facts" in the world of politics, polls and stats. Population, sample , demographics can always be tinkered with to tell the story the creator wants to tell.
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Old December 10th, 2015, 02:11 PM   #3
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Dream on. Rubio can't even beat Trump. He's definitely not going to beat the atomic pantsuit.
The poll says you are WRONG - accept it!

You are only lying to yourself if you don't.
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Old December 10th, 2015, 02:40 PM   #4
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CBS polls just put Trump 20 points ahead of his nearest rival, who is not Rubio.

How does Rubio beat Hillary when he's over 20 points behind Trump?

You're the one lying to yourself.
I find it pleasant that you have decided Mr. Trump is a given...works rather well for you, terrible for the Republican party. I feel anyone backing Trump is either insane or want the Dems to keep the white house.

Which one are you?
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Old December 10th, 2015, 03:09 PM   #5
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CBS polls just put Trump 20 points ahead of his nearest rival, who is not Rubio.

How does Rubio beat Hillary when he's over 20 points behind Trump?

You're the one lying to yourself.
Plain as day - In RCP avg. head to head against Hillary Rubio wins.

Head to head against Hillary Trump loses.

Reason is: Hillary vs. Rubio or Trump includes ALL voters (GOP, Dems., Independent). Poll Showing Trump over Rubio is only a narrow slice of voters.

Kindly look at it again if you have trouble understanding the numbers.

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Old December 10th, 2015, 04:18 PM   #6
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Who Do You Think Will Win the GOP Nomination?
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Old December 10th, 2015, 05:32 PM   #7
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Rubio.

Hey arcturus: don't you pretty much see Trump as a buffoon?

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Old December 11th, 2015, 04:55 AM   #8
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And I remember those LIBERAL establishment candidates LOSING in a landslide to a man who never held a real job in his life.
Trump never had a real job in his life. He was just a rich brat who had everything handed to him.

His only attempt at an actual job was as a businessman was and that was an utter failure!

As the National Journal has worked out that if Trump had just put his inherited father’s money in a mutual fund that tracked the S&P 500 and spent his career finger-painting, he’d have DOUBLE the money he has now!!!

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I'm one of the SILENT MAJORITY of America.
You blindly fell for his spin machine's slogan hook, line, and sinker! There is no truth nor evidence thst such a thing exists!
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Old December 14th, 2015, 10:47 AM   #9
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Today's update:

Here is the truth NATIONALLY up to this very moment (i.e. today):

Clinton 48.5 vs. Trump 42.8.

Clinton 45.8 vs. Rubio 47.9.

These are the UNDENIABLE FACTS!!! found at RealClearPolitics - Opinion, News, Analysis, Video and Polls read them & see them, or be a fool if you don't.

BTW: The differential has INCREASED from 7.2 to 7.8% just in a few days in RUBIO's favor!!!
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Old December 14th, 2015, 11:45 AM   #10
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Problem is, Rubio is losing to Trump and will no doubt lose the nomination to Trump.
Problem is, that is FAR from a "given".
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Old December 14th, 2015, 11:47 AM   #11
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Building an 8 billion dollar company sounds like a real job to me.
FALSE!!! He is worth 1/2 that. The wealth of his father stagnated all these years. Could have been $8B by now, with reasonable competancy.

Since he was incompetant, he got literally nowhere.
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Old December 14th, 2015, 05:28 PM   #12
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Bottom line, he built an $8 billion company. It has a huge cash flow with very little debt.

Tell me again how YOUR $8 billion company is coming along, since you believe you're so much smarter than him.
Whar part about $4 billion don't you understand?

"Bloomberg puts Trump’s current net worth at $2.9 billion, Forbes at $4.1 billion."

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Old December 15th, 2015, 04:47 AM   #13
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What part about EIGHT BILLION do you not understand?

Donald Trump's net worth - Business Insider

The day of his campaign-launch speech last month, Trump released a one-page report that described his net worth as being approximately $8.7 billion. His campaign said upon filing the disclosure that his net worth has actually increased over the past year.
"Mr. Trump's net worth has increased since the more than one year old financial statement produced at his presidential announcement," the statement said. "Real estate values in New York City, San Francisco, Miami and many other places where he owns property have gone up considerably during this period of time. His debt is a very small percentage of value, and at very low interest rates. As of this date, Mr. Trump's net worth is in excess of TEN BILLION DOLLARS."
8 billion is on the super optomistic liberal estimate. The conservative, unbiased estimates are more in line with 3.5 billion.

From the VERY SAME article you quoted: "Forbes currently estimates his net worth at $4 billion.

OK, the only prudent thing to do, would do like an RCP estimate of the three. An average of 2.9, 4.1, and 8 = only 5 billion.

This STILL means he should have FINGERPAINTED for his career (supplies are VERY inexpensive), and invested relative conservatively (S&P 500 mutual funds), and he would indeed now actually have 8 billion instead of likely WAY lower than that.

In other words, no matter how you slice it, he is A FAILURE AS A BUSINESSMAN. Even worse, just like Obama (two peas in a pod) he has not been successful at anything, and people want him to be the World's leader??? VERY SCARY!!!
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Old December 15th, 2015, 05:05 AM   #14
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WRONG. The conservative estimates are more in line with TEN billion.
Apparently, you were lackidaisical about reading the article; each item listed had a WIDE RANGE of value. Apparently you don't understand that CONSERVATIVE estimate means you use the low end number! If you do that, it would be around 2 BILLION. Yes, if you use the top number, it would be 8 billion.

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And Forbes is wrong.
Nope! Impossible to wrong with an estimate. Both Bloomberg and Forbes used a reasonable, rational, thoughtful number near the midpoint of the ranges.

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Do you wear a white sheet and a KKK hood when you post these ridiculous lies?
Do you ever think before you speak? BEFORE you make such rediculous , nonsensicle statements which have NOTHING to do with what we are discussing? Just curious!!!
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Old January 1st, 2016, 12:51 PM   #15
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These are the HARD AND COLD FACTS

Read them and weep!

Rubio wins:

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Rubio vs. Clinton

Trump FAILS:

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton

A 4.9% differential between Rubio and Trump. DUMP TRUMP!!!
That was then (a 4.9% differential on Dec. 10th), this is now; the differential between Rubio being ahead NATIONALLY is up to 6.6% over Trump!!!

Only a true FOOL would continue to support Trump. The cry to DUMP TRUMP keeps getting louder & louder!
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Old January 2nd, 2016, 05:36 AM   #16
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The problem with polls is that they represent nothing more than a snapshot.
LOL!!! The thing is, snap shot after snapshot, until you have a massive pile of them that show Rubio beating Clinton vs. an empty pile of Trump beating Clinton - WAKE UP!

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Most of America wants Donald Trump to be the next president.
That is just a MASSIVE amount of wishful thinking! Like David pointed out, Trump has a fraction of a fraction of OVERALL national support.
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Old January 4th, 2016, 05:07 AM   #17
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TRINOp is still floundering; Nationally Rubio is STILL over 6% ahead of Trump. TRINOp is making no headway against Rubio. TRINOp should do the honorable thing for his party, and gracefully drop out, in order to MAXIMIZE the GOP's chances in November, THE VOTING THAT REALLY COUNTS!!!
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Old January 4th, 2016, 05:51 AM   #18
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Trump is ahead in all polls.
Nope! In the absolute most important poll (the General Election), TRINOp is well behind Clinton. What part of that stark reality do you fail to grasp?


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As far as making headway against RINObio, Trump is letting Jeb take out the boy.
As the candidates drop out (and they will), an increasing amount of support will be seen by the non-TRINOp candidates, while TRINOp's support will remain virtually flat, until one of the remaining non-TRINOp candidates surpasses TRINOp's support.

I am fairly confident that candidate will be RUBIO.

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