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Old June 3rd, 2016, 04:07 AM   #1
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Hillary/Bernie supporters show true colors

Hillary/Bernie supporters appear to be against the democratic process and free speech. Rather than simply voting against Trump they chose to use violence and fear to inhibit free speech. waving Mexican flags, burning American flags and ambushing Trump supporters as they leave a rally.

this will only strengthen Trump support.


Protesters attack Trump supporters outside San Jose rally


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Bottles were thrown, hats went up in flames and one Donald Trump supporter took raw eggs to the face when violence broke out during a protest outside the Republican candidate's rally in San Jose.
Hundreds of demonstrators marched for hours around the McEnery Convention Center, where Trump spoke in front of thousands. The crowd grew unruly throughout the night and started several confrontations with Trump supporters.

About a dozen fights broke out amid the crowd, the Associated Press reported. Videos and photographs from outside the rally captured protesters fighting with supporters, burning hats and ripping up Trump banners. One woman was "taunted" by protesters and hit in the face with raw eggs.
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An officer was assaulted outside the event, San Jose Sgt. Enrique Garcia said in an email. Police made "a few" arrests after the rally, but Garcia did not say how many were detained or give other information...

Nearly an hour after the Trump rally ended, police brought out a megaphone and told the demonstrators to leave or face arrest.
According to a tweet from NBC News' Jacob Rascon, one protester yelled back, "we don't follow the law."

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Old June 3rd, 2016, 04:17 AM   #2
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Hillary/Bernie supports appear to be against the democratic process and free speech. Rather than simply voting against Trump they chose to use violence and fear to inhibit free speech. waving Mexican flags, burning American flags and ambushing Trump supporters as they leave a rally.

this will only strengthen Trump support.


Protesters attack Trump supporters outside San Jose rally
Have you ever stopped for a minute to consider these people are not supporting a candidate...but, instead doing something we call "Protesting" one?

As an example....I do not care for or support any of these people for President because they ALL pretty much suck. But I do speak out on Donald Trump because he is an absolute moron who makes no sense, lies constantly, whines about anything that hurts his feewings, and might very well destroy decades of progress as well as my countrys reputation.
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Old June 3rd, 2016, 04:22 AM   #3
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Have you ever stopped for a minute to consider these people are not supporting a candidate...but, instead doing something we call "Protesting" one?

As an example....I do not care for or support any of these people for President because they ALL pretty much suck. But I do speak out on Donald Trump because he is an absolute moron who makes no sense, lies constantly, whines about anything that hurts his feewings, and might very well destroy decades of progress as well as my countrys reputation.
then vote against him. its really that easy.

if these anti-free speech and anti-democratic hordes/terrorists are against him it gives pause as to which side an anti-trump person is really on. note trump supporters are not waiting outside Bernie / Hillary rallies waiting to ambush them with violence.
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then vote against him. its really that easy.

if these anti-free speech and anti-democratic hordes/terrorists are against him it gives pause as to which side an anti-trump person is really on. note trump supporters are not waiting outside Bernie / Hillary rallies waiting to ambush them with violence.
I agree...just making a point.
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Old June 3rd, 2016, 04:29 AM   #5
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they most certainly are. ever heard of this quote...

“I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"

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Old June 3rd, 2016, 06:12 AM   #6
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Yes, and they have a right to be anti-Trump.
Right and the response to being anti-trump is to vote against him, not attack his supporters. Did you even read original post?!
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But Trump can outright ORDER his people to punch peaceful protesters and get a pass? Trump started this shit after all.
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But Trump can outright ORDER his people to punch peaceful protesters and get a pass? Trump started this shit after all.
but...but...he said he would pay the legal bills.
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Old June 3rd, 2016, 07:33 AM   #9
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But Trump can outright ORDER his people to punch peaceful protesters and get a pass? Trump started this shit after all.

I don't give a free pass. No, Trump should not tell supporters at a rally that someone deserves a punch.

however, note again that protestors of this ilk are continually trying to disrupt, heckle, out shout, and generally raise hell at Trump's rallies.

protest your thoughts with signs outside the rally. protest in front of trump tower...fine. try to squash Trumps free speech and the democratic process. not fine.
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Old June 3rd, 2016, 09:06 AM   #10
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I don't believe it is just a random coincidence that Trump has such intense opposition, the like of we have never seen in elections past. They think a Trump Presidency is a horrible idea!!!

And they are not necessarily FOR Clinton.

you are correct. and neither is it a coincidence that they are waving Mexican flags and burning American flags.
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I don't give a free pass. No, Trump should not tell supporters at a rally that someone deserves a punch.

however, note again that protestors of this ilk are continually trying to disrupt, heckle, out shout, and generally raise hell at Trump's rallies.

protest your thoughts with signs outside the rally. protest in front of trump tower...fine. try to squash Trumps free speech and the democratic process. not fine.
There was 1 person who got thrown out and all they did was sit quietly and listen (and also be a women holding another woman's hand). As I said, Trump started this shit, started getting flack, then started calling EVERY protester a violent Bernie plant. The media went for it because it pulled in better ratings (crazy fascists being crazy fascists isn't exactly breaking news) and now here you are parroting his dodge. I'm not saying you're doing it on purpose, only that you've allowed yourself to be taken in by propaganda. People throwing rocks into windshields is bad, people booing something idiotic Trump says isn't.
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I'd also like to point out the absurdity of expecting protesters to stand outside and silently hold placards. The entire point is to make your opposition known, staying out of sight for the sole benefit of your fellow protesters completely defeats the point of the exercise. As I said before, things shouldn't be allowed to get rowdy but getting into a shouting match with someone is perfectly acceptable.

I can't help but notice that nobody (aside from Trumpets) seemed to care until only Dems were left. Suddenly challenging Trump is some unforgivable sin and undemocratic left wing plot. To be clear, I generalize the sudden pan-Repub opposition to anti-Trump protests.
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Also important to consider is WHY he is being protested. For many people ( myself included )Trump represents things in opposition to what America stands for. Between his divisive statements and nature, lack of competence, unpleasant attitude, and history of failure, he is seen as a threat to our country and embarrassing to what we are.
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Also important to consider is WHY he is being protested. For many people ( myself included )Trump represents things in opposition to what America stands for. Between his divisive statements and nature, lack of competence, unpleasant attitude, and history of failure, he is seen as a threat to our country and embarrassing to what we are.
What REALLY scares me is that this isn't happening in a vacuum. 1 crazy fascist sucks for the sorry country that gets saddled with them but even then things don't get too out of hand. The problem starts when SEVERAL crazy fascists take power. Domestically it empowers them to implement the worst of their ideas while internationally is inspires aggression as they have allies. WW2 and the South American death squads come to mind.

I say this because if Trump was alone security would get more oppressive and the press would stop losing freedom and things would suck for 4-8 years. With other nations falling under fascist rule or at threat of doing so (many of them long time allies) things like throwing muslims into concentration camps and seizing 'buffer land' from Mexico on which to build an Israeli-Palestinian style wall could actually happen. We also risk a dictatorship if he gets too comfortable with power. And that's just the US, all the other nations with Trump style leaders will have their own exaggerated nightmares being similarly enabled.
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Old June 6th, 2016, 05:08 AM   #15
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Also important to consider is WHY he is being protested. For many people ( myself included )Trump represents things in opposition to what America stands for. Between his divisive statements and nature, lack of competence, unpleasant attitude, and history of failure, he is seen as a threat to our country and embarrassing to what we are.
Replace Trump here with Obama and you'll have how many others feel. Somehow they resist violence against people with a different viewpoint, flag burning and waving Mexican flags. weird.

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I'd also like to point out the absurdity of expecting protesters to stand outside and silently hold placards. The entire point is to make your opposition known, staying out of sight for the sole benefit of your fellow protesters completely defeats the point of the exercise.
their point is to inflict violence on a group who has a view that differs from theirs. in other words they do not like free speech much.
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There was 1 person who got thrown out and all they did was sit quietly and listen (and also be a women holding another woman's hand). As I said, Trump started this shit, started getting flack, then started calling EVERY protester a violent Bernie plant. The media went for it because it pulled in better ratings (crazy fascists being crazy fascists isn't exactly breaking news) and now here you are parroting his dodge. I'm not saying you're doing it on purpose, only that you've allowed yourself to be taken in by propaganda. People throwing rocks into windshields is bad, people booing something idiotic Trump says isn't.
what fantasy are you talking about? there really isn't a trump rally that ive seen that didn't involve some ignorant young thugs vying for their 15 minutes of fame. another fantasy... the media doesn't go for anything pro-trump.

this weekend Bernie made a statement discouraging any violence by his supporters. I respect that. unlike Hillary's juvenile approach, (like yours here)..."but..but..he started it".

examine:

bern/hill supporters: they go to his rallies to disrupt. they now have resorted to waiting outside to inflict physical violence on the supporters. burning US flags/ waving Mexican flags.

trump supporters: ruff up ruffians trying to disrupt their rallies. (btw, in sports, you'd get the same results if you went to a home game and tried to disrupt yelling obscenities about the home team).

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Old June 6th, 2016, 08:13 AM   #18
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Your premise is not correct! As I reported in another thread: At the Chicago protest: "the students were intent on keeping the protest nonpartisan.", so they are NOT necessarily Clinton or Sanders supporters. THEY ARE PRIMARILY ONLY anti-Trump.
Inside the Protest That Stopped the Trump Rally - POLITICO Magazine

In the Chicago protest the anti-Trump people were attacked 1st and fought back.


Yeah, a very small rogue minority. Vast majority do not.

I don't believe the MSM.

If ANY Trump supporters were burning the American flag and waving a foreign country's flag while attacking supporters of an opponent at their rally, it would be equally disturbing.
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Old February 2nd, 2017, 08:43 AM   #19
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Gay conservative writer to speak at Berkley and the anti-free speech crowd riot.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Mg8AVpe6rY


good explanation of what happened by Milo himself:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-sX5JLwidE

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