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Old August 5th, 2017, 11:30 AM   #21
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As far as REALITY is concerned, you are:
If by chance, you truly wish me to remove the kid gloves and Moderator mantle in order to honestly and brutally explain the depths of your rather pathetic and unrelenting ignorance of virtually every subject you poison with what you seem to think of as wit I will certainly comply. The ONLY issue being that I may need to discipline myself for being TOO honest in my evaluation of your ineptitude and inability to reason.
Nevertheless...I will do so upon request.
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Old August 5th, 2017, 11:35 AM   #22
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Ummm..... but they carry the burden of only ONE State rather than 50 plus D.C. plus Territories, so it is all relative! - hello?!
Excerpted from this thread’s 11:26 AM, August 5, 2017 post:
“Fitz, states within the USA lack the feasible effective taxing and consequentially funding abilities equal to that our federal government can exercise within every state”.

Aufgeblassen, within each individual state the federal government can and does generally derive more tax revenues and is able to do so with less difficulty than that of the individual state’s government.

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Old August 5th, 2017, 12:26 PM   #23
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Within each of our three federal government’s main branches, there are individual leadership chairs of offices within committees and other divisions that in regard to the scopes of various issues, have greater than ordinary members’ powers and influences. By custom, a senator can halt some federal procedures within their state unless there’s a sufficiently great plurality of the senate or the senate committee to override that evocation of senatorial privilege. Members of the federal government constitute a society; societies are to some extent influenced by the attributes of their individual members.
So again it comes down to politics? It seems this has left millions without coverage—millions who can’t afford care—and almost everyone dramatically overpaying for their care?

I've noticed some comments which seem to suggest that a state (countries) national health service is some form of poisonous cancer infecting its populace - Socialism!!! If it protects and cares for its citizens then is that a bad thing? I still cannot fathom why a 1st world country has such a divided opinion on such a basic human need?
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Old August 5th, 2017, 12:27 PM   #24
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Within each of our three federal government’s main branches, there are individual leadership chairs of offices within committees and other divisions that in regard to the scopes of various issues, have greater than ordinary members’ powers and influences. By custom, a senator can halt some federal procedures within their state unless there’s a sufficiently great plurality of the senate or the senate committee to override that evocation of senatorial privilege. Members of the federal government constitute a society; societies are to some extent influenced by the attributes of their individual members.
So again it comes down to politics? It seems this has left millions without coverage—millions who can’t afford care—and almost everyone dramatically overpaying for their care?

I've noticed some comments which seem to suggest that a state (country's) national health service is some form of poisonous cancer infecting its populace - Socialism!!! If it protects and cares for its citizens then is that a bad thing? I still cannot fathom why a 1st world country has such a divided opinion on such a basic human need?
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Old August 5th, 2017, 12:40 PM   #25
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So again it comes down to politics? It seems this has left millions without coverage—millions who can’t afford care—and almost everyone dramatically overpaying for their care?

I've noticed some comments which seem to suggest that a state (countries) national health service is some form of poisonous cancer infecting its populace - Socialism!!! If it protects and cares for its citizens then is that a bad thing? I still cannot fathom why a 1st world country has such a divided opinion on such a basic human need?
Realize that the United States right now is extremely polarized and dysfunctional in any ways. Our political system has become primarily driven by corporate interest and greed in politics. Our Supreme court decided to make businesses people in the eyes of politics which opened the door for increased bribery. Added to this is the Trump phenomenon and we get hatred instead of cooperation across the board and stagnation throughout Government and dissent amongst the population.
Because of these things progress is virtually impossible and even something as important as healthcare (life an death) does not compare to the importance of money in the politicians pocket. We are also dealing with the backlash of having our first black President and many old white men are afraid there may eventually be another if they do not erase him from history...thus must his legacy (Obamacare/ACA) be eliminated.
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Old August 5th, 2017, 02:18 PM   #26
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As expected, you react with your typically inane and childlike standard impotent cartoonish BS rather than man up and face a challenge to your pathetically uneducated and feeble mental state. It seems you are truly unable to function at the adult level your unfortunate physical appearance projects. I have wandered the internet for decades and NEVER encountered an individual who represents this level of ignorance who is not even bright enough to recognize it.
That you fall for and forward untruths while claiming truths to be lies is bad enough. That you do so while proudly displaying such a blatant lack or easily obtained knowledge indicates a level of mental instability that can only garner pity in those who see it.
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Old August 5th, 2017, 02:49 PM   #27
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Such a profound and powerful rebuttal (sic) is about the level of thought one can expect from someone like yourself...rather than continue to ridicule your unfortunate lot in life I bid you good day.
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Old August 6th, 2017, 03:03 AM   #28
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Realize that the United States right now is extremely polarized and dysfunctional in any ways. Our political system has become primarily driven by corporate interest and greed in politics. Our Supreme court decided to make businesses people in the eyes of politics which opened the door for increased bribery. Added to this is the Trump phenomenon and we get hatred instead of cooperation across the board and stagnation throughout Government and dissent amongst the population.
.... Do you think Trump may be a tipping point to the extent that a future runner for office would point to Trump and say "look what hapened the last time we went for the"alternative" candidate? Trump hailed himself as the great political outsider, the reformer, a vigilante if you will empowered by the people to clean the political canker out of Washington. Business sense over machiavellian political intrigue. Unfortunately He/It hasn't worked in fact so far its been a spectacular failure and although the idea of a "trump" was probably a sound idea the actuality of it is, as you say, causing huge issues within the population to the extent that nothing is being achieved.

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Because of these things progress is virtually impossible and even something as important as healthcare (life an death) does not compare to the importance of money in the politicians pocket. We are also dealing with the backlash of having our first black President and many old white men are afraid there may eventually be another if they do not erase him from history...thus must his legacy (Obamacare/ACA) be eliminated.
Yeah, its a pretty f****d up situation.
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Old August 6th, 2017, 03:06 AM   #29
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Do the pictures imply a Janet and John version of political discourse?
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Old August 6th, 2017, 04:00 AM   #30
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.... Do you think Trump may be a tipping point to the extent that a future runner for office would point to Trump and say "look what hapened the last time we went for the"alternative" candidate? Trump hailed himself as the great political outsider, the reformer, a vigilante if you will empowered by the people to clean the political canker out of Washington. Business sense over machiavellian political intrigue. Unfortunately He/It hasn't worked in fact so far its been a spectacular failure and although the idea of a "trump" was probably a sound idea the actuality of it is, as you say, causing huge issues within the population to the extent that nothing is being achieved.


Yeah, its a pretty f****d up situation.
You seem to have a better understanding of the American political situation than many natives.
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Old August 11th, 2017, 12:47 AM   #31
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Regarding this thread's topic, "Catastrophic medical insurance":

Catastrophic annual medical expenses on behalf of individual insured patients are of great cost to their medical insurance plans. Prohibiting effectively refusing applicants with undesirable medical conditions is also of great cost to a medical insurance plan. Catastrophic annual medical expenses are more likely to be encountered among patients that had undesirable medical conditions when they applied for insurance.

Regardless if the Affordable Care Act does or does not survive, federal insurance of catastrophic medical expenditures on behalf of all individual patients that’s not of cost to any insurance plans would significantly increase the affordability and sustainability of all, (commercial, or non-profits’, or governments’) medical insurance plans.

“On behalf of all patients” does not exclude USA legal residents that otherwise are not covered by any insurance. In the USA when legally obligated or charitable entities do not pay providers of medical goods and services, substantial amounts of those bills are directly or indirectly paid by our governments, (i.e. our taxpayers).

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Old August 11th, 2017, 01:17 AM   #32
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Regarding this thread's topic, "Catastrophic medical insurance":

Catastrophic annual medical expenses on behalf of individual insured patients are of great cost to their medical insurance plans. Prohibiting effectively refusing applicants with undesirable medical conditions is also of great cost to a medical insurance plan. Catastrophic annual medical expenses are more likely to be encountered among patients that had undesirable medical conditions when they applied for insurance.

Regardless if the Affordable Care Act does or does not survive, federal insurance of catastrophic medical expenditures on behalf of all individual patients that’s not of cost to any insurance plans would significantly increase the affordability and sustainability of all, (commercial, or non-profits’, or governments’) medical insurance plans.

“On behalf of all patients” does not exclude USA legal residents that otherwise are not covered by any insurance. In the USA when legally obligated or charitable entities do not pay providers of medical goods and services, substantial amounts of those bills are directly or indirectly paid by our governments, (i.e. our taxpayers).

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In my opinion the ONLY way to guarantee healthcare to everyone is to pool funding through Government taxation and eliminate private insurance from the equation completely. In the United States we have made healthcare a business and with this comes the inherent greed and corruption. You will not eliminate the base ugliness of human greed so, eliminate the opportunity.
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Old August 11th, 2017, 03:22 AM   #33
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In my opinion the ONLY way to guarantee healthcare to everyone is to pool funding through Government taxation and eliminate private insurance from the equation completely. In the United States we have made healthcare a business and with this comes the inherent greed and corruption. You will not eliminate the base ugliness of human greed so, eliminate the opportunity.
Tecoyah, you and I believe there’s a need for all citizens' entitlements to federal basic medical insurance. I’m a proponent of expanding Medicare to cover all USA’s legal residents.
Commercial insurers did not, do not, and cannot provide basic medical insurance in a manner superior to that of Medicare insurance.

[Medicare, Medicare advantage, and Medicare Supplemental insurances are an example of government provided basic insurance that individuals may choose to augment by purchasing additional insurance provided by nongovernment insurers.

Medicare works well, but I object to federal subsidizing nongovernment augmented insurance at greater than federal net basic Medicare costs per capita].

I perceive nothing to be gained by eliminating nongovernment augmented Medicare.

Regardless of whatever medical insurance plans do or will exist in the USA, federal insurance of catastrophic medical expenditures on behalf of all individual patients that’s not of cost to any insurance plans would significantly increase the affordability and sustainability of all, (commercial, or non-profits’, or governments’) medical insurance plans.

“On behalf of all patients” does not exclude USA legal residents that otherwise are not covered by any insurance. In the USA when legally obligated or charitable entities do not pay providers of medical goods and services, substantial amounts of those bills are directly or indirectly paid by our governments, (i.e. our taxpayers).

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Old August 31st, 2017, 05:36 PM   #34
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I have always wondered why such a country as the US with the wealth of medical professionals at its disposal and indeed the quality of its doctors and nurses, that the population and politicians are still having the most basic of debates about how to provide even the most basic care to its citizenry? How is it possible that one of the wealthiest nations on earth is still struggling to provide for the care of its people?
It's because so much of the population consists of brainwashed zombie morons.

As we not uncommonly see even on this august site of enlightenment.
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Old August 31st, 2017, 07:51 PM   #35
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... If you don't like America Supposn, you are free to LEAVE!!!
Aufgeblassen, I regret that you find my posts so disturbing. Unfortunately, your despondence is not sufficient reason for me to leave the nation of my birth. Would it help to be aware I would not be upset if you chose to no longer respond to my posts? If responding discomforts you, please feel free to disregard my posts.
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Old September 1st, 2017, 04:33 PM   #36
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James Madison in Federalist 45 explained the concept of federalism—“The powers delegated ... to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite.”
And if your dearly beloved President Slimeball gets his way, all power will go to a Trump Nazoid Party.

No worry about "states' rights" then!
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Old September 6th, 2017, 04:18 PM   #37
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On the contrary, COMPETITION leads to lower costs. If you establish a MONOPOLY, there is no incentive WHATSOEVER to lower costs. Hence, much HIGHER costs.
The only difference between you and and a priest mumbling through the articles of his dogma are the clothes you wear and the nonsense you both uncritically believe.
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Old September 6th, 2017, 05:20 PM   #38
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The difference between you and a buffoon is splitting hairs and not worth the effort!
That's amusing, Auffie calling me a buffoon.

That's the pot calling the linen napkin black!

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