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Old August 5th, 2017, 11:57 AM   #41
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Realize that the United States right now is extremely polarized and dysfunctional in any ways. Our political system has become primarily driven by corporate interest and greed in politics. Our Supreme court decided to make businesses people in the eyes of politics which opened the door for increased bribery. Added to this is the Trump phenomenon and we get hatred instead of cooperation across the board and stagnation throughout Government and dissent amongst the population.
Because of these things progress is virtually impossible and even something as important as healthcare (life an death) does not compare to the importance of money in the politicians pocket. We are also dealing with the backlash of having our first black President and many old white men are afraid there may eventually be another if they do not erase him from history...thus must his legacy (Obamacare/ACA) be eliminated.
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Old August 5th, 2017, 01:18 PM   #42
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As expected, you react with your typically inane and childlike standard impotent cartoonish BS rather than man up and face a challenge to your pathetically uneducated and feeble mental state. It seems you are truly unable to function at the adult level your unfortunate physical appearance projects. I have wandered the internet for decades and NEVER encountered an individual who represents this level of ignorance who is not even bright enough to recognize it.
That you fall for and forward untruths while claiming truths to be lies is bad enough. That you do so while proudly displaying such a blatant lack or easily obtained knowledge indicates a level of mental instability that can only garner pity in those who see it.
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Old August 5th, 2017, 01:40 PM   #43
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As expected, you react with your typically inane and childlike standard impotent cartoonish BS rather than man up and face a challenge to your pathetically uneducated and feeble mental state. It seems you are truly unable to function at the adult level your unfortunate physical appearance projects. I have wandered the internet for decades and NEVER encountered an individual who represents this level of ignorance who is not even bright enough to recognize it.
That you fall for and forward untruths while claiming truths to be lies is bad enough. That you do so while proudly displaying such a blatant lack or easily obtained knowledge indicates a level of mental instability that can only garner pity in those who see it.
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Old August 5th, 2017, 01:49 PM   #44
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Such a profound and powerful rebuttal (sic) is about the level of thought one can expect from someone like yourself...rather than continue to ridicule your unfortunate lot in life I bid you good day.
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Old August 6th, 2017, 02:03 AM   #45
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Realize that the United States right now is extremely polarized and dysfunctional in any ways. Our political system has become primarily driven by corporate interest and greed in politics. Our Supreme court decided to make businesses people in the eyes of politics which opened the door for increased bribery. Added to this is the Trump phenomenon and we get hatred instead of cooperation across the board and stagnation throughout Government and dissent amongst the population.
.... Do you think Trump may be a tipping point to the extent that a future runner for office would point to Trump and say "look what hapened the last time we went for the"alternative" candidate? Trump hailed himself as the great political outsider, the reformer, a vigilante if you will empowered by the people to clean the political canker out of Washington. Business sense over machiavellian political intrigue. Unfortunately He/It hasn't worked in fact so far its been a spectacular failure and although the idea of a "trump" was probably a sound idea the actuality of it is, as you say, causing huge issues within the population to the extent that nothing is being achieved.

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Because of these things progress is virtually impossible and even something as important as healthcare (life an death) does not compare to the importance of money in the politicians pocket. We are also dealing with the backlash of having our first black President and many old white men are afraid there may eventually be another if they do not erase him from history...thus must his legacy (Obamacare/ACA) be eliminated.
Yeah, its a pretty f****d up situation.
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Do the pictures imply a Janet and John version of political discourse?
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Old August 6th, 2017, 03:00 AM   #47
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.... Do you think Trump may be a tipping point to the extent that a future runner for office would point to Trump and say "look what hapened the last time we went for the"alternative" candidate? Trump hailed himself as the great political outsider, the reformer, a vigilante if you will empowered by the people to clean the political canker out of Washington. Business sense over machiavellian political intrigue. Unfortunately He/It hasn't worked in fact so far its been a spectacular failure and although the idea of a "trump" was probably a sound idea the actuality of it is, as you say, causing huge issues within the population to the extent that nothing is being achieved.


Yeah, its a pretty f****d up situation.
You seem to have a better understanding of the American political situation than many natives.
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Old August 6th, 2017, 04:29 AM   #48
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Unfortunately He/It hasn't worked in fact so far its been a spectacular failure and although the idea of a "trump" was probably a sound idea the actuality of it is, as you say, causing huge issues within the population to the extent that nothing is being achieved.

If the economy is a good judge (and it is) of success, then Obama was a monumental failure (recovery was both SLOW, like 5 times slower than it should have been, and WEAK to boot), and Trump has been a MASSIVE success so far. The economy is what affects citizens the most of anything Washington can do.

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Old August 10th, 2017, 11:47 PM   #49
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Regarding this thread's topic, "Catastrophic medical insurance":

Catastrophic annual medical expenses on behalf of individual insured patients are of great cost to their medical insurance plans. Prohibiting effectively refusing applicants with undesirable medical conditions is also of great cost to a medical insurance plan. Catastrophic annual medical expenses are more likely to be encountered among patients that had undesirable medical conditions when they applied for insurance.

Regardless if the Affordable Care Act does or does not survive, federal insurance of catastrophic medical expenditures on behalf of all individual patients that’s not of cost to any insurance plans would significantly increase the affordability and sustainability of all, (commercial, or non-profits’, or governments’) medical insurance plans.

“On behalf of all patients” does not exclude USA legal residents that otherwise are not covered by any insurance. In the USA when legally obligated or charitable entities do not pay providers of medical goods and services, substantial amounts of those bills are directly or indirectly paid by our governments, (i.e. our taxpayers).

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Old August 11th, 2017, 12:17 AM   #50
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Regarding this thread's topic, "Catastrophic medical insurance":

Catastrophic annual medical expenses on behalf of individual insured patients are of great cost to their medical insurance plans. Prohibiting effectively refusing applicants with undesirable medical conditions is also of great cost to a medical insurance plan. Catastrophic annual medical expenses are more likely to be encountered among patients that had undesirable medical conditions when they applied for insurance.

Regardless if the Affordable Care Act does or does not survive, federal insurance of catastrophic medical expenditures on behalf of all individual patients that’s not of cost to any insurance plans would significantly increase the affordability and sustainability of all, (commercial, or non-profits’, or governments’) medical insurance plans.

“On behalf of all patients” does not exclude USA legal residents that otherwise are not covered by any insurance. In the USA when legally obligated or charitable entities do not pay providers of medical goods and services, substantial amounts of those bills are directly or indirectly paid by our governments, (i.e. our taxpayers).

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In my opinion the ONLY way to guarantee healthcare to everyone is to pool funding through Government taxation and eliminate private insurance from the equation completely. In the United States we have made healthcare a business and with this comes the inherent greed and corruption. You will not eliminate the base ugliness of human greed so, eliminate the opportunity.
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Old August 11th, 2017, 02:22 AM   #51
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In my opinion the ONLY way to guarantee healthcare to everyone is to pool funding through Government taxation and eliminate private insurance from the equation completely. In the United States we have made healthcare a business and with this comes the inherent greed and corruption. You will not eliminate the base ugliness of human greed so, eliminate the opportunity.
Tecoyah, you and I believe there’s a need for all citizens' entitlements to federal basic medical insurance. I’m a proponent of expanding Medicare to cover all USA’s legal residents.
Commercial insurers did not, do not, and cannot provide basic medical insurance in a manner superior to that of Medicare insurance.

[Medicare, Medicare advantage, and Medicare Supplemental insurances are an example of government provided basic insurance that individuals may choose to augment by purchasing additional insurance provided by nongovernment insurers.

Medicare works well, but I object to federal subsidizing nongovernment augmented insurance at greater than federal net basic Medicare costs per capita].

I perceive nothing to be gained by eliminating nongovernment augmented Medicare.

Regardless of whatever medical insurance plans do or will exist in the USA, federal insurance of catastrophic medical expenditures on behalf of all individual patients that’s not of cost to any insurance plans would significantly increase the affordability and sustainability of all, (commercial, or non-profits’, or governments’) medical insurance plans.

“On behalf of all patients” does not exclude USA legal residents that otherwise are not covered by any insurance. In the USA when legally obligated or charitable entities do not pay providers of medical goods and services, substantial amounts of those bills are directly or indirectly paid by our governments, (i.e. our taxpayers).

Respectfully, Supposn
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Old August 11th, 2017, 04:25 AM   #52
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The United States was NOT founded to be a Nanny State!!! - hello?! One simply cannot argue to the contrary; no leg to stand on!

The vast majority of the Federal gov't. was National defense with the Post Office and a common currency being THE REST. It should STILL be that way today!!!

EVERYTHING else was, and still should be left to the STATES!!!

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Old August 11th, 2017, 04:48 AM   #53
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James Madison in Federalist 45 explained the concept of federalism—“The powers delegated ... to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite.”

The role of the federal government

If you don't like America Supposn, you are free to LEAVE!!!
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