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Cosmo October 6th, 2017 02:47 AM

The Madness of Donald Trump
 
The pressures of the presidency have pushed Trump to the edge, but is he crazy enough to be removed from office?
.After a disastrous and terrifying August, which among other things saw him defend the "very fine people" among neo-Nazi protesters in a Charlottesville, Virginia, march, it's Trump's mental state not his alleged Russia ties, nor his failure to staff the government or pass any major legislation that has become the central problem of his presidency
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/taibbi-madness-of-donald-trump-removal-25th-amendment-w504149

tecoyah October 6th, 2017 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Cosmo (Post 71957)
The pressures of the presidency have pushed Trump to the edge, but is he crazy enough to be removed from office?
.After a disastrous and terrifying August, which among other things saw him defend the "very fine people" among neo-Nazi protesters in a Charlottesville, Virginia, march, it's Trump's mental state – not his alleged Russia ties, nor his failure to staff the government or pass any major legislation – that has become the central problem of his presidency
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/taibbi-madness-of-donald-trump-removal-25th-amendment-w504149

I find it very likely judging by Meuller personal and recent grand jury witnesses (the few that have leaked) that the final case will center primarily on financial issues and RICO violations. There will of course by many other things but that looks to be the focus. it makes sense considering he difficulty of sticking other charges and the incorporation of State DA cooperation.

arcturus88 October 6th, 2017 05:30 AM

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Trump's mental state not his alleged Russia ties, nor his failure to staff the government or pass any major legislation that has become the central problem of his presidency
Russia thing not working out so well, huh?


Cosmo October 6th, 2017 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by arcturus88 (Post 71962)

Russia thing not working out so well, huh?

Au contraire;the "Russia thing" is not going away.

tecoyah October 6th, 2017 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by arcturus88 (Post 71962)


Russia thing not working out so well, huh?


Actually, it probably is. Thing is that the ways an investigation works we will not know until it is completed, especially when it is done by an investigator with the power and expertise of Meuller. Often the place an investigation begins leads to significantly more data than was initially known, which is why it is referred to as investigation.

arcturus88 October 6th, 2017 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by tecoyah (Post 71964)
Actually, it probably is. Thing is that the ways an investigation works we will not know until it is completed, especially when it is done by an investigator with the power and expertise of Meuller. Often the place an investigation begins leads to significantly more data than was initially known, which is why it is referred to as investigation.

sounds more like the dems are hedging their bets (if Russia, turns out to be a turd in the punchbowl...well at least we can push the crazy angle)

this is not a typical investigation as illustrated by the copious leaks that have occurred along the way. Yet, odd... no leaks overtly incriminating Trump.

numan October 6th, 2017 03:21 PM

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THE UNBEARABLE LIGHTNESS OF THE MADNESS OF MAFIA DON

Good pick, Cosmo!

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We deserve Trump, though. God, do we deserve him. We Americans have some good qualities, too, don't get me wrong. But we're also a bloodthirsty Mr. Hyde nation that subsists on massacres and slave labor and leaves victims half-alive and crawling over deserts and jungles, while we sit stuffing ourselves on couches and blathering about our "American exceptionalism." We dumped 20 million gallons of toxic herbicide on Vietnam from the air, just to make the shooting easier without all those trees, an insane plan to win "hearts and minds" that has left about a million still disabled from defects and disease including about 100,000 children, even decades later, little kids with misshapen heads, webbed hands and fused eyelids writhing on cots, our real American legacy, well out of view, of course.
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tecoyah October 6th, 2017 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by arcturus88 (Post 71965)
sounds more like the dems are hedging their bets (if Russia, turns out to be a turd in the punchbowl...well at least we can push the crazy angle)

this is not a typical investigation as illustrated by the copious leaks that have occurred along the way. Yet, odd... no leaks overtly incriminating Trump.


"Hedging their bets"
is referred to as expanding an investigation in this case and is the natural course investigations take. As an example:

Looking into a witness unveils financial transactions,
Financial transactions indicate ties to another individual.
The new individual has ties to someone of interest.
This individual works for Russia.
Trump works with said individual.
Trump works with Russia.
Russia manipulates Trump.

You will call this overreach and desperation, a jury will see this as investigation and proof of guilt. I understand well that TrumpHumpers do not wish to recognize these realities and prefer to ignore what is happening but, eventually the time will come that you cannot and that time is fast approaching. You might want to be prepared.

numan October 8th, 2017 12:53 PM

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I think the best way to bring down Sociopath Mafia Don is to concentrate on his business dealings and tax crimes.

The Presidential Crook is certainly guilty many times over in his financial wheeler-dealings.

If it was good enough to bring down Al Capone, it should be enough to nail Dotard Bum Trump.
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tecoyah October 9th, 2017 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by numan (Post 71989)
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I think the best way to bring down Sociopath Mafia Don is to concentrate on his business dealings and tax crimes.

The Presidential Crook is certainly guilty many times over in his financial wheeler-dealings.

If it was good enough to bring down Al Capone, it should be enough to nail Dotard Bum Trump.
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This is also likely to bring his kids and associates down to the pokey, which is why they are all lawyered up and staying as far away as possible at this point. It must suck to be his friend right now.

numan October 23rd, 2017 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by tecoyah (Post 71991)
It must suck to be his friend right now.

I can't imagine that the word "friend" could be applied to anyone with whom Trump associates.

Trump is a sociopath: the human race is divided by him into those whom he can exploit and those who help him to exploit others --- or both, of course.
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Polydectes October 26th, 2017 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by arcturus88 (Post 71962)


Russia thing not working out so well, huh?


That was entirely fabricated by CNN.

tecoyah October 26th, 2017 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Polydectes (Post 72195)
That was entirely fabricated by CNN.

Wow...I had no Idea that Congress, BBC, the Justice dept., and the FBI all work for CNN.

Polydectes October 28th, 2017 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tecoyah (Post 72196)
Wow...I had no Idea that Congress, BBC, the Justice dept., and the FBI all work for CNN.

That's a silly statement. If CNN lied and said there was a bomb in a building somewhere the the FBI and the justice department would probably go investigate that.

But the Veritas tapes confirmed it any Russian collusion is fabricated by CNN. I honestly think they should be prosecuted for libel and sedition but you know I'm not the justice department.

Iolo October 29th, 2017 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by numan (Post 72146)
I can't imagine that the word "friend" could be applied to anyone with whom Trump associates.

Trump is a sociopath: the human race is divided by him into those whom he can exploit and those who help him to exploit others --- or both, of course.
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And, of course, wicked enemies who must be destroyed. It was unkind of the American extremists to elect the man - he is so obviously incompetent and out of his depths that he will almost inevitable either start a world war or break down.

tecoyah October 29th, 2017 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Iolo (Post 72265)
And, of course, wicked enemies who must be destroyed. It was unkind of the American extremists to elect the man - he is so obviously incompetent and out of his depths that he will almost inevitable either start a world war or break down.

Hopefully his removal has now begun and we will avoid this.

Polydectes October 30th, 2017 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Iolo (Post 72265)
And, of course, wicked enemies who must be destroyed. It was unkind of the American extremists to elect the man - he is so obviously incompetent and out of his depths that he will almost inevitable either start a world war or break down.

Anything Could Happen. But if America elected him it wouldn't be any extremists. He won by a majority of votes the majority is never extreme the extreme is defined as someone being more intense than the majority.

I think any hopes of removal our pie-eyed fantasy. I'm willing to bet if he manages to break ground on the wall he will be our president until 2024

numan October 30th, 2017 04:44 PM

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Considering Trump's age, the amount of stress he subjects himself to, and his life of dissipation and self-indulgence --- not to mention all the people who have it in for him --- I imagine his life in office will be fairly short.
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Polydectes October 30th, 2017 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by numan (Post 72324)
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Considering Trump's age, the amount of stress he subjects himself to, and his life of dissipation and self-indulgence --- not to mention all the people who have it in for him --- I imagine his life in office will be fairly short.
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Perhaps people die.

Iolo October 31st, 2017 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Polydectes (Post 72316)
Anything Could Happen. But if America elected him it wouldn't be any extremists. He won by a majority of votes the majority is never extreme the extreme is defined as someone being more intense than the majority.

I think any hopes of removal our pie-eyed fantasy. I'm willing to bet if he manages to break ground on the wall he will be our president until 2024

As I understand it, Mrs Clinton got far more votes.


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