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Old October 30th, 2017, 05:10 PM   #21
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Not among the civilized nations.
There are uncivilized counties? Seems a bit of an oxymoron.




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That is like a hick from the sticks asking if a resident of "this demi-paradise" if they are jealous they don't live among feuding hillbillies.
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So do you have any statements other than frothing contempt and vitriol? It doesn't seem to be something civilized perior would do... But what do I know?
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Old October 30th, 2017, 05:39 PM   #22
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In 1961, the United States plotted with the outgoing Belgian colonizers to murder Congo’s first elected prime minister, Patrice Lumumba. The Americans then installed Joseph Mobutu as strongman to safeguard multinational mining interests and to act as an American base of operations to subvert independence movements all over Africa.
"The United States is mainly responsible for the even larger crime of which mass rape is just one aspect: the death of six million people."
Mobutu served the Americans well, and helped himself to possibly $4 billion of the Congolese people’s money. When Mobutu left the scene in 1997, Washington switched to what has always been its Plan B for Africa: wherever it cannot rule through its chosen strongman, the U.S. creates chaos.

In 1998, Uganda and Rwanda, America's client states in Africa, invaded the eastern Congo, plunging the country into the chaos of the second Congolese genocide. The United States, through its proxies and its deliberate policy of creating chaos for the benefit of multinational corporations, is complicit in every single one of those six million deaths. It is U.S. policy -– not just past, but present policy –- that has unleashed bands of armed men and child soldiers to inflict unspeakable horrors on women and girls.
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Old November 5th, 2017, 03:09 PM   #23
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There are uncivilized counties? Seems a bit of an oxymoron.
That depends on the definition and understanding of Civilisation --- and very few Americans have even the remotest conception of what may constitute Civilisation.

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So do you have any statements other than frothing contempt and vitriol? It doesn't seem to be something civilized perior would do... But what do I know?
Yes, indeed, what would you know.

It is striking, and a never-ending source of wonder to me, how instantly and profoundly most Americans perceive simple criticism as hatred and vitriol.

Moreover, it is not simply the result of modern brainwashing and conditioning of the American Mind --- it goes way back to the untimely rupture of infant America from the nurturing Mother Country.

I could do a thread documenting this repulsive characteristic of the American Mind --- perhaps I shall, if I find the time.
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Old November 5th, 2017, 04:24 PM   #24
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That depends on the definition and understanding of Civilisation --- and very few Americans have even the remotest conception of what may constitute Civilisation.
Well the definition is simple. More contempt I see...pity.


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Yes, indeed, what would you know.

It is striking, and a never-ending source of wonder to me, how instantly and profoundly most Americans perceive simple criticism as hatred and vitriol.
Thus far I haven't seen any criticism.

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Moreover, it is not simply the result of modern brainwashing and conditioning of the American Mind --- it goes way back to the untimely rupture of infant America from the nurturing Mother Country.

I could do a thread documenting this repulsive characteristic of the American Mind --- perhaps I shall, if I find the time.
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Well what you find repulsive wouldn't really be legitimate criticisms. You can have opinions but if they are based on emotion and little more i don't think thru will be valuable from an argumentative stand point.
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Old November 16th, 2017, 05:57 AM   #25
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Well the definition is simple. More contempt I see...pity.


Thus far I haven't seen any criticism.

Well what you find repulsive wouldn't really be legitimate criticisms. You can have opinions but if they are based on emotion and little more i don't think thru will be valuable from an argumentative stand point.
Like so many Americans you live in a druggie's dream, wholly out of touch with any shared reality, and unable to hear or read anything that doesn't fit your brainwashing. That's how the American extreme-right manages to keep blowing clouds of pissmist - it can't connect with the rest of us at all. I expect it is laid down in the Konstitootion!
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Old November 18th, 2017, 05:44 PM   #26
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The United States government is so defective and harmful that rational people should find it otiose to criticize it---it is a self-evident parody of itself whose absurdity shoots past surrealism into the realms of Dadaism!

America is full of hate-filled bigots, but I am not one of them.

However, I despise the present antiquated, irrational Constitution of the USA, and wish it to be replaced, as speedily as possible, by a modern, efficient mechanism that will be able to handle the challenges of the 21st century.

This, so far from being a wish to destroy the country, is the only way to save it!
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The United States government is so defective and harmful that rational people should find it otiose to criticize it---it is a self-evident parody of itself whose absurdity shoots past surrealism into the realms of Dadaism!

America is full of hate-filled bigots, but I am not one of them.

However, I despise the present antiquated, irrational Constitution of the USA, and wish it to be replaced, as speedily as possible, by a modern, efficient mechanism that will be able to handle the challenges of the 21st century.

This, so far from being a wish to destroy the country, is the only way to save it!
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I've said this many times, we've fallen into the same trap as the Romans. The Romans managed a multi-continent republic with a city state's bureaucracy and fell due to the inherent inefficiencies. The US does the same with an agrarian bureaucracy. We've adapted better (as in kept the house of cards up longer, not solving the problem) since states are nations unto themselves but it's straining the system.

The solution as I see it is to break up the US into smaller cultural and geography based confederations that can deal with interstate governance with greater agility. These confederations rather than individual states can be federated into the current (obviously modified) system with the Feds being more of a UN type organization keeping the confederations on the same page and managing the economy/military. Under the current system the system is going to eventually break down and the states are going to just do their own thing as happened to the Soviets. It's almost happened once already and took force of arms and massive military and economic intervention to avoid.
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I didn't say that. There are nations who's murder rates dwarf the US per capita.


Jealous much?
Weird sickoes rule US, ok!
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Old November 21st, 2017, 05:09 PM   #29
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I don't know why it matters how people are killed and there's a lot of countries that have a higher murder rate than the US.
Sure, but among the technically advanced nations the USA consistently winds up at the bottom of the list on this, as well in so many other aspects of civilized living.

Moreover, a lot of those nations with very high murder rates are in the condition they are suffering due to to the plots and meddling of the USA Oligarchs in their internal affairs.

In comparison, any meddling of Russia in the affairs of the USA is pretty trivial.
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The OP obviously does not understand the definition (legal) of "murder". If it was understood, the question obviously would not have been posted.
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