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Old December 2nd, 2017, 05:43 AM   #1
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Fox news and Sputnik.

I generally try to get my information from as many sources as possible for both confirmation and opinion. Though I have noted bias over the years in the United States (MSNBC and FOX primarily) this latest news cycle was absolutely ridiculous.
MSNBC had nonstop coverage of the Flynn admission and FOX totally ignored it. Fox spent a LOT of time covering illegal aliens and murder while MSNBC almost ignored the Murder of an American citizen ending up as a gun charge. My point here is what this does to our population and the similarities to Russian state media propaganda.
People here seem to be uninformed or misinformed in such a way that it almost guarantees the fractured society we now face. We have become an Us vs. Them nation and the big difference is Russia does not allow a Them.

I challenge everyone to take one (!) hour and watch the news from a station they avoid for political reasons....it might be enlightening.
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Old December 2nd, 2017, 06:07 AM   #2
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Good idea. Too bad few will follow it.
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Old December 2nd, 2017, 06:33 AM   #3
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I saw it on Fox News.
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Old December 2nd, 2017, 06:36 AM   #4
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I generally try to get my information from as many sources as possible for both confirmation and opinion. Though I have noted bias over the years in the United States (MSNBC and FOX primarily) this latest news cycle was absolutely ridiculous.
MSNBC had nonstop coverage of the Flynn admission and FOX totally ignored it. Fox spent a LOT of time covering illegal aliens and murder while MSNBC almost ignored the Murder of an American citizen ending up as a gun charge. My point here is what this does to our population and the similarities to Russian state media propaganda.
People here seem to be uninformed or misinformed in such a way that it almost guarantees the fractured society we now face. We have become an Us vs. Them nation and the big difference is Russia does not allow a Them.

I challenge everyone to take one (!) hour and watch the news from a station they avoid for political reasons....it might be enlightening.
The thing about Fox is only 2 of their weekday shows are actual news. The rest are opinion. I'm not going to get anything worthwhile from Fox & Friends.
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Old December 2nd, 2017, 06:44 AM   #5
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It is a shame. Flynn had a long and successful military career. In hindsight, he should have stayed out of politics.
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Old December 4th, 2017, 06:15 AM   #6
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If one would have taken said challenge and tuned into ABC they would have stepped into this pile of doo...


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/02/u...ended-abc.html


Fake news is not always 100% wrong. but it is meant to move the masses towards something or some opinion, rather than inform people of something.

Brian Ross allowed his desires and wishful thinking to corrupt any semblance of objectivity.
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Old December 4th, 2017, 06:52 AM   #7
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If one would have taken said challenge and tuned into ABC they would have stepped into this pile of doo...


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/02/u...ended-abc.html


Fake news is not always 100% wrong. but it is meant to move the masses towards something or some opinion, rather than inform people of something.

Brian Ross allowed his desires and wishful thinking to corrupt any semblance of objectivity.
Then he got the boot and ABC issued a retraction. Faux News would have doubled down and given the liar a raise.
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Old December 4th, 2017, 08:15 AM   #8
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Faux News would have doubled down and given the liar a raise.
They do, until they get blatantly caught. Then Management disavows any knowledge of said lies.
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Old December 4th, 2017, 08:57 AM   #9
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Then he got the boot and ABC issued a retraction. Faux News would have doubled down and given the liar a raise.

regardless of whether that is true or not, his is a perfect example of the "Fake news" the left tries to deny.
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Old December 4th, 2017, 09:03 AM   #10
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regardless of whether that is true or not, his is a perfect example of the "Fake news" the left tries to deny.
Actually, no it is not and this whole "Fake News" mantra developed by your man crush has gotten very old and stale. This was a case of overly enthusiastic and inaccurate reporting which was caught and remedied. Likely the reporter in question DID hope for what he reported and he just paid for it.
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Old December 4th, 2017, 09:43 AM   #11
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overly enthusiastic and inaccurate reporting = fake news.
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Old December 4th, 2017, 10:01 AM   #12
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overly enthusiastic and inaccurate reporting = fake news.
mmm..yes...indubidably (sic).

Micro-managing editing?

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Old December 4th, 2017, 10:31 AM   #13
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overly enthusiastic and inaccurate reporting = fake news.
Does that also apply to Fox News....if so you should find another channel.
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Old December 4th, 2017, 11:02 AM   #14
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Does that also apply to Fox News....if so you should find another channel.

Fox is a reaction to decades of bias journalism slanted left.

Is Fox slanted right?

Sure. But it is a natural correction. I take no news as absolute fact. I just chose my slant. The difference is I know it.
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Old December 4th, 2017, 11:59 AM   #15
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Fox is a reaction to decades of bias journalism slanted left.

Is Fox slanted right?

Sure. But it is a natural correction. I take no news as absolute fact. I just chose my slant. The difference is I know it.
Got it...you KNOW it's fake but you like it.

Makes a strange kind of sense.

Purposeful Propaganda.
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Old December 4th, 2017, 12:04 PM   #16
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Got it...you KNOW it's fake but you like it.

Makes a strange kind of sense.

Purposeful Propaganda.

doesn't seem like you "Got it" at all.
maybe sip on some Chamomile tea, listen to some soft music,

...then reread what I said.
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Old December 4th, 2017, 12:24 PM   #17
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doesn't seem like you "Got it" at all.
maybe sip on some Chamomile tea, listen to some soft music,

...then reread what I said.
These are YOUR WORDS:
"Is Fox slanted right?

Sure. But it is a natural correction. I take no news as absolute fact. I just chose my slant. The difference is I know it."


I'm wondering, do you believe Trumps Lawyer stole his phone and hacked it to send a Tweet?
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Old December 4th, 2017, 12:26 PM   #18
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These are YOUR WORDS:
"Is Fox slanted right?

Sure. But it is a natural correction. I take no news as absolute fact. I just chose my slant. The difference is I know it."


I'm wondering, do you believe Trumps Lawyer stole his phone and hacked it to send a Tweet?
WHY would he?
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Old December 4th, 2017, 12:28 PM   #19
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WHY would he?
It is what he said he did in order to protect Trump from incriminating himself.
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Old December 4th, 2017, 12:28 PM   #20
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These are YOUR WORDS:
"Is Fox slanted right?

Sure. But it is a natural correction. I take no news as absolute fact. I just chose my slant. The difference is I know it."


I'm wondering, do you believe Trumps Lawyer stole his phone and hacked it to send a Tweet?


if all news has a slant , then everyone is choosing the slant they are viewing. some prefer to pretend that the news they are viewing is slant-free. I am not so naïve.
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