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Old January 19th, 2018, 05:49 AM   #21
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They tell everyone their bang-bangs are to defend liberty from George 111 - and presumably other fat nutters!
Fat Nutter sounds like a breakfast cereal.
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Old January 19th, 2018, 05:57 AM   #22
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Fat Nutter sounds like a breakfast cereal.
...designed for fat Americans....
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Old January 19th, 2018, 05:58 AM   #23
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sorry that was rude but I think it is a bit of an issue with you guys.... waist sizes....
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Old January 19th, 2018, 06:00 AM   #24
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They tell everyone their bang-bangs are to defend liberty from George 111 - and presumably other fat nutters!
Actually, the NRA mostly talks about guns being used for self defense.

That does not preclude the use of guns from defense from their own government or other powers. Which, by the way, listening to you, is something we should be concerned about.
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Old January 19th, 2018, 06:05 AM   #25
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Which, by the way, listening to you, is something we should be concerned about.
....I don't think you need fear the Welsh

...they have other thinks on their minds....Six Nations for one thing!!
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Old January 19th, 2018, 06:12 AM   #26
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....I don't think you need fear the Welsh

...they have other thinks on their minds....Six Nations for one thing!!
I was talking about the NRA in the US.
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Old January 19th, 2018, 07:28 AM   #27
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I was talking about the NRA in the US.
I know I was just pulling your plonker...
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Old January 19th, 2018, 12:55 PM   #28
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It appears that numan is a curmudgeon who hates EVERYONE!!!
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Old January 20th, 2018, 02:57 AM   #29
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Actually, the NRA mostly talks about guns being used for self defense.

That does not preclude the use of guns from defense from their own government or other powers. Which, by the way, listening to you, is something we should be concerned about.
Eh? Just because you want a constant chorus of 'It's Tommy this and Tommy that, and Tommy go Away. But it's Thank your Mr Atkins when the band begins to play' doesn't excuse talking nonsense, you know. Killing people is not 'self-defense' but murder, and I don't murder people. It is American hollow-chest-beating nonsense to pretend bully-boys are threatened by wicked decent people.
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Old January 20th, 2018, 02:58 AM   #30
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It appears that numan is a curmudgeon who hates EVERYONE!!!
Said HE! Jesus wept!
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Old January 20th, 2018, 09:55 AM   #31
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Eh? Just because you want a constant chorus of 'It's Tommy this and Tommy that, and Tommy go Away. But it's Thank your Mr Atkins when the band begins to play' doesn't excuse talking nonsense, you know. Killing people is not 'self-defense' but murder, and I don't murder people. It is American hollow-chest-beating nonsense to pretend bully-boys are threatened by wicked decent people.
I am not sure what world you live in, but if someone breaks into my house and poses a lethal threat to me or my family, and I shoot him, it is self defense.
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I am completely devoid of prejudice --- I hate everyone equally !

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I don't know what 'the Brits' may do, but for real British people it tends to depend on community experience, where memory hasn't been carefully destroyed.
Thank you for your careful distinction between Britons and Anglos! ---
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Old January 21st, 2018, 04:23 AM   #34
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I am not sure what world you live in, but if someone breaks into my house and poses a lethal threat to me or my family, and I shoot him, it is self defense.
Property comes before human life, eh? Well, we all know what you think, and trust your children don't quarrel with you about pocket-money! In most countries the number of murderers breaking in at night is, compared with normal burglars, small.
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Old January 21st, 2018, 04:38 AM   #35
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Property comes before human life, eh? Well, we all know what you think, and trust your children don't quarrel with you about pocket-money! In most countries the number of murderers breaking in at night is, compared with normal burglars, small.
No, HIS human life comes before an intruder's.
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Old January 21st, 2018, 04:43 AM   #36
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No, HIS human life comes before an intruder's.
How many intruders have ever threatened his life? He just believes propaganda bullshit, like so many American gun nuts. That's what the NRA is for.
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Old January 21st, 2018, 04:55 AM   #37
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How many intruders have ever threatened his life? He just believes propaganda bullshit, like so many American gun nuts. That's what the NRA is for.
What difference does that make?

You are just rationalizing, not having actual freedom & having guns.
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Old January 21st, 2018, 05:02 AM   #38
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How many intruders have ever threatened his life? He just believes propaganda bullshit, like so many American gun nuts. That's what the NRA is for.
What an dumb argument.

I have never had an airbag deploy in a car, but I still have airbags. Don't need airbags or seat belts. I have never got sick from smoking, so I might as well go ahead and smoke.
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Old January 21st, 2018, 05:07 AM   #39
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What an dumb argument.

I have never had an airbag deploy in a car, but I still have airbags. Don't need airbags or seat belts. I have never got sick from smoking, so I might as well go ahead and smoke.
Your having airbags is hardly a means of murdering others, is it. Go ahead and smoke, ew - I am not convinced the world needs you!
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Old January 21st, 2018, 05:10 AM   #40
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Your having airbags is hardly a means of murdering others, is it. Go ahead and smoke, ew - I am not convinced the world needs you!
Nor is visa versa true but also irrelevant; you cannot save lives or reduce accident injury with a gun in your car.

Guns are NOT "for" murdering people! Your premise is flawed. They are for the highly unlikely event that justifiable homicide is necessary as a last resort.

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