The Political Fray - Political Forum
Go Back   Political Fray > The Political Fray > Philosophy

Philosophy Philosophy discussion about everything from politics to daily living to ethics and morals


Thanks Tree4Thanks
  • 2 Post By zoldos
  • 1 Post By Polydectes
  • 1 Post By zoldos
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old June 19th, 2012, 12:43 PM   #1
Senator
 
Cerise's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2012
From: England
Posts: 553

Locked-in man 'faces years of misery'

I watched a documentary about this case on TV last night. It was very moving but part of it made me extremely annoyed.
A disabled man visited Tony at home and made the argument against any form of assisted suicide. He arrived in his own car which he is able to drive and spoke freely about disabled people having a high quality of life.
It was obvious that he did, yet I thought it arrogant and insulting of him to say what he did when Tony cannot speak for himself and cannot do anything for himself at all.
He 'speaks' by typing one letter at a time on a special computer that makes his sentences audible. To type, he looks at a letter on a keyboard and then blinks.

Please listen to the interview in this link if you are able to access it then tell me what you think about his request.



A paralysed man who wants a doctor to be able to lawfully kill him could live for another 20 years or more of "increasing misery", a court has heard.
Tony Nicklinson, 58, from Wiltshire, has locked-in syndrome following a stroke seven years ago.
His barrister also told the High Court he is not seeking a new law to allow euthanasia, but just wanted a "remedy".
But the government is to argue that such a ruling would authorise murder.
This legal bid differs from recent right-to-die cases which have focused on assisted suicide.




continues..... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-18495973
Cerise is offline  
Old June 19th, 2012, 01:55 PM   #2
Intern
 
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 36

Assisted suicide should be a viable option that a patient has to choose after all other options have been exhausted. Many people tout that living is something that should be held dear and never wasted. Well in this case what can he do besides spend the next 20 or so years writing a single book or do anything else that would require typing slowly with his eyes.

I know somepeople might bring up Stephen Hawkin as an example, with that I reply that it is the persons choice and should be repected as such.
The GMan is offline  
Old June 19th, 2012, 03:28 PM   #3
Senator
 
Cerise's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2012
From: England
Posts: 553

Quote:
Originally Posted by The GMan View Post
Assisted suicide should be a viable option that a patient has to choose after all other options have been exhausted. Many people tout that living is something that should be held dear and never wasted. Well in this case what can he do besides spend the next 20 or so years writing a single book or do anything else that would require typing slowly with his eyes.

I know somepeople might bring up Stephen Hawkin as an example, with that I reply that it is the persons choice and should be repected as such.
I agree.
In this case it wouldnt be assisted suicide because Tony is not able to do anything for himself so he could not lift a cup to drink from or place a pill into his own mouth. Someone would have to do it for him and in that action lies the whole question of making a murder legal.
People are individuals and each case should be decided on an individual basis.
Cerise is offline  
Old June 19th, 2012, 04:53 PM   #4
myp
Founding Father
 
myp's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2009
From: us
Posts: 5,841

The issue with things like suicide is that if depression is a clinically diagnosable thing (which currently we believe it is and we do diagnose it), then what says that a person who wants to commit suicide is simply not displaying symptoms of a pathology such as depression? It is a complex and difficult question.
myp is offline  
Old June 19th, 2012, 06:49 PM   #5
Representative
 
zoldos's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2012
From: on Earth
Posts: 236

I dunno. I mean we put animals to sleep that are "suffering" but humans we can't? What is the point of being alive if you can't communicate, bath, eat, clothe yourself, etc? I think it should be a personal choice for certain circumstances.
zoldos is offline  
Old April 30th, 2014, 01:14 AM   #6
Representative
 
zoldos's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2012
From: on Earth
Posts: 236

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aufgeblassen View Post
There is no viable reason - period!!!
So you agree or disagree? And wow, did some post digging I see.
zoldos is offline  
Old April 30th, 2014, 03:34 AM   #7
Governor
 
Polydectes's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2013
From: just past the moons of Jupiter
Posts: 1,173

Quote:
Originally Posted by zoldos View Post
So you agree or disagree? And wow, did some post digging I see.
That is a shallow puddle.

It's good to see you back do you plan on sticking around?
Polydectes is offline  
Old April 30th, 2014, 09:15 AM   #8
Representative
 
zoldos's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2012
From: on Earth
Posts: 236

Quote:
Originally Posted by Polydectes View Post
That is a shallow puddle.

It's good to see you back do you plan on sticking around?
We'll see. I'm trying to trim down the number of forums I participate on, but I'l try to be active.
Thanks from tecoyah and Polydectes
zoldos is offline  
Old April 30th, 2014, 11:49 AM   #9
Governor
 
Polydectes's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2013
From: just past the moons of Jupiter
Posts: 1,173

Quote:
Originally Posted by zoldos View Post
We'll see. I'm trying to trim down the number of forums I participate on, but I'l try to be active.
Welcome back
Thanks from tecoyah
Polydectes is offline  
Old May 1st, 2014, 01:10 AM   #10
Representative
 
zoldos's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2012
From: on Earth
Posts: 236

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aufgeblassen View Post
While you're a deep mud puddle.

Can't wait to hear his explanation to the commanding officer! hehehe
zoldos is offline  
Old May 1st, 2014, 01:10 AM   #11
Representative
 
zoldos's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2012
From: on Earth
Posts: 236

Quote:
Originally Posted by Polydectes View Post
Welcome back
Thanks!
Thanks from Polydectes
zoldos is offline  
Reply

  Political Fray > The Political Fray > Philosophy

Tags
faces , lockedin , man , misery , years



Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Big E retired after 50 years. David Government and Politics 4 December 2nd, 2012 04:33 PM
Report: US to become top oil producer in 5 years myp Current Events 1 November 12th, 2012 05:19 PM
How will it look in 100 years? curious History 24 May 26th, 2010 04:46 PM
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid faces scrutiny for racist remarks myp Current Events 34 February 2nd, 2010 08:32 AM
Obama does a couple of about-faces. curious Current Events 3 May 17th, 2009 05:23 AM


Facebook Twitter RSS Feed



Copyright © 2009-2013 Political Fray. All rights reserved.