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Old January 19th, 2009, 11:31 AM   #1
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Have you read the BIBLE?

have you read the bibl?,if not then do read it because you will learn a lot of things from it and i am not talking about the divine teachings but it teaches you to be a good human being also i like the hidden messages and secrets in it.if you have read the bible and have found a secret in it then please share.
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Old January 19th, 2009, 02:56 PM   #2
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Thanks for trying to convert us (well not me, I'm already a Christian), but I really don't think this would be the forum to try and convert people (I know your just trying to do good deeds ), because it may start to turn into a flame war.. there are many places where you can do this, I don't think this place should be one of them as we should just discuss each religion, and leave the final decision on their own hands. There's many other religions out there, and like I said, if say a Muslim reads this thread, I'm sure he/she will have something to say.
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Old January 19th, 2009, 07:01 PM   #3
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You mean the WHOLE - ENTIRE bible?
Well no, but I had read some plasms.
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Old January 19th, 2009, 09:31 PM   #4
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I haven't read the whole thing but I have read some of it. Mostly when something happened in school and the bible was brought up and we would go look in one to see if it was in there or not.
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Old January 20th, 2009, 12:59 AM   #5
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Yes, I did, as a kid. The pictured fueled my curiosity. As for the text, remember very less of it!
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Old January 21st, 2009, 03:25 PM   #6
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I've read part of it, not the whole thing.

The apocalypse section is what interested me as that's what the future will hold. Although I think the Bible has been heavily modified over time, so I'm not sure if what I read was actually valid. But a lot of it did make sense, however other things seem to be put in by man rather than God.
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 11:10 AM   #7
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You mean the WHOLE - ENTIRE bible?
Well no, but I had read some plasms.
Well it doesn't really take that long to read the whole Bible if you just devote yourself to the task and don't feel like it's something forced (like you're not FORCED to read it, I hope )

It took me several years to read the whole Bible, but if I didn't study each section and reread and go to bible studies, etc. it would've took about only 8 hours in total to read the whole book in one sitting. ^^ (which is almost impossible, unless you think the book is so amazing and exciting lol.. I mean honestly, it does get quite boring)
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 02:16 PM   #8
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I've read it as I am a Christian.

To the people complaining about this user trying to convert others please look up the definition of the word "convert" he hasn't tried doing that like any other book he is stating it is interesting

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Old January 22nd, 2009, 08:29 PM   #9
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I haven't really read it in its religious context, just for research papers and such.

While I am agnostic, I still find it all very fascinating.
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Old January 27th, 2009, 10:17 AM   #10
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I have read my bible but just remember one thing. Do not become a Mechanical Christian, meaning that you follow all of its teachings to the letter yet sacrifice your heart in the process. Jesus made that example clear to us when he healed people on the sabbath (clearly against their hebrew religious law back then).
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Old January 27th, 2009, 05:32 PM   #11
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I have read my bible but just remember one thing. Do not become a Mechanical Christian, meaning that you follow all of its teachings to the letter yet sacrifice your heart in the process. Jesus made that example clear to us when he healed people on the sabbath (clearly against their hebrew religious law back then).
I completely agree, and a great example of this would be young teenagers just waiting to have sex before they even get married. They may argue against this by saying "oh, but I'm giving up my heart!", but are they really? Honestly, when you have sex before like the age of 18, those are probably because of your damn hormones, not your heart. You really can't have true love at a young age (as demonstrated very well in Romeo and Juliet), which would be the counter to people that say that.

Believing in something just because you're forced to isn't right either, and that's pretty similar to giving up your heart I believe.
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Old January 28th, 2009, 01:04 PM   #12
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I completely agree, and a great example of this would be young teenagers just waiting to have sex before they even get married. They may argue against this by saying "oh, but I'm giving up my heart!", but are they really? Honestly, when you have sex before like the age of 18, those are probably because of your damn hormones, not your heart. You really can't have true love at a young age (as demonstrated very well in Romeo and Juliet), which would be the counter to people that say that.

Believing in something just because you're forced to isn't right either, and that's pretty similar to giving up your heart I believe.
I totally agree with this. This is also why im waiting for marriage to have sex. I was on a talk show for this so I really do believe in saving yourself.
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Old March 15th, 2009, 06:33 PM   #13
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have you read the bibl?,if not then do read it because you will learn a lot of things from it and i am not talking about the divine teachings but it teaches you to be a good human being also i like the hidden messages and secrets in it.if you have read the bible and have found a secret in it then please share.
I have not read it cover to cover but I am in the process of doing so. I have however read quite a bit of it and for every good thing it teaches, I have found something else that is hateful. All in all, it's a pretty good story - but that's all it is.
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Old March 20th, 2009, 05:31 AM   #14
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I have not read it cover to cover but I am in the process of doing so. I have however read quite a bit of it and for every good thing it teaches, I have found something else that is hateful. All in all, it's a pretty good story - but that's all it is.
I haven't read it from cover to cover but I likely knew much of it's story and what happened, especially the Gospels, which were read every Sunday Mass. Besides, we always study the topic almost everyday when I was still at school.

By the way, what did you found hateful?

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Old March 20th, 2009, 08:52 AM   #15
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I've said this on other Threads, but might as well repeat it here. The bible is a great read. I mean there is a read why it's the number 1 most read book over the world. (Anne Frank's diary is second... I'd be so embarrassed if it were mine!). Like all good literature, it can teach you something about life and give something meaning. It also is a good source of history to look into what would have been seen by history if not for the bible as a small insignificant tribe of nomads who ad a quirky little religion.

But (and this is were I get death threats) the Bible is literature. It's beliefs and stories all were taken from the time the people who wrote them. This makes it good for history, but bad for people who take things so literal. Don't hate me just yet... I mean thing about it soundly. If you were to read in a Greek story based on history... like maybe the Iliad and you read about giants, supermen, talking beasts, enchanted objects, and mythical creatures wouldn't you think these were just fancy flourishes on something that might have happened but didn't really exist? Of course you would. Now remember the Bible was write before and around the same time all these other sources were happening. (Hell, Noah is a story directly from Gilgamesh). I do believe these events happened to the Israelites, but like most literature of the time, were spiced up for a more interesting read. Plus these fantastic stories probably brought more attention to the faith. The concept of heaven and hell was around forever, before Judaism. My thoughts is that maybe they first developed this idea in Egypt.

So when I look at the Bible, I just rule out the Old Testament as something fun to read. There are some nice lessons that can be learned from the outlandish tales, but such lessons are also available in Grimm's Fairy Tales. The New Testament I find more reliable as a source of real information. Also remember the New Testament was written after the classical age, when Rome was in its prime and a new age of reason came over the world. Its also reflected in the Bible. By that time, God is more spiritual than a vengeful figure who smites whole towns for being "evil." Plus the scriptures deal mostly on the spiritual world rather than flavored history.

I don't know much about the Universe, but I do believe in a higher being, and for now i call Him God. The same guy in the Bible. I want to believe Jesus was his son, but mostly I think of him as a prophet who preached peace during a time of occupation and got killed for it (remind you of Ghandi?). But then again, didn't Jesus say that all people of the world were children of God. When he was referring to himself as the son... naw, I'm looking more into that than I should.

Anyhow that's my view on things.
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Old March 20th, 2009, 10:06 AM   #16
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I haven't read it from cover to cover but I likely knew much of it's story and what happened, especially the Gospels, which were read every Sunday Mass. Besides, we always study the topic almost everyday when I was still at school.

By the way, what did you found hateful?
Well you don't have to look very far to find some hate. Hell, read genesis and by the end of it god has already performed a complete genocide o the world. Not very loving if you ask me.
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Old March 22nd, 2009, 03:58 AM   #17
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I am not christian and what would be termed a none believer, however I have always been intrigued by the bible but never found the time to read it. But one day I will.

My impression is that you do not have to be a believer per se to benefit from the bible. I don't think I would be converted by reading it but that is for another time!
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I am an ex-Christian, so yes, I've read it, but I find it entertaining to quote from the Bible even now. I don't think a lot of Christians actually read the whole thing, or they'd realize what a generally violent and perverse book it is - it's as bad as Grand Theft Auto! What I particularly like is telling very conservative, very religious Christians who use Scripture as the basis for prejudice - whether it's based on gender, race, or sexual orientation - that there are zombie armies (Ezekiel 37:1-14), bans on mixed-fiber clothing (Leviticus 19:19), and a command to cut off a woman's hand for accidentally touching a man's private bits when he's assailing her husband (Deuteronomy 25:11-12). They invariably call me a liar, and then I get to direct them to the references. So much for "if it's in the Bible, it's good enough for me!"
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I've read it, except for the 'begats' of course. It's one of the reasons I'm an atheist. I basically read about Job and decided I really didn't like god much. If he could do that to his most faithful believer, then he is just a petty tyrant and exhibits all kinds of characteristics, like jealousy and pettiness that I think are wrong.
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I am an ex-Christian, so yes, I've read it, but I find it entertaining to quote from the Bible even now. I don't think a lot of Christians actually read the whole thing, or they'd realize what a generally violent and perverse book it is - it's as bad as Grand Theft Auto! What I particularly like is telling very conservative, very religious Christians who use Scripture as the basis for prejudice - whether it's based on gender, race, or sexual orientation - that there are zombie armies (Ezekiel 37:1-14), bans on mixed-fiber clothing (Leviticus 19:19), and a command to cut off a woman's hand for accidentally touching a man's private bits when he's assailing her husband (Deuteronomy 25:11-12). They invariably call me a liar, and then I get to direct them to the references. So much for "if it's in the Bible, it's good enough for me!"
You can toss all this stuff at them and then they'll throw at you the old "that's the old testament!" line. "That was before Jesus preached his loving ways!" Of course, there are follow up arguments to those lines.
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