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Old June 8th, 2012, 04:05 PM   #1
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My article in American Atheist Magazine

My article about futile confrontations between theists and atheists*appeared in the April 2012 Issue of*American Atheist Magazine. The link is:

http://csam.montclair.edu/~kowalski/theo/atheist.html

Please share this link with other potential readers. Thank you in advance,

Ludwik Kowalski (see Wikipedia)*
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Old June 15th, 2012, 02:47 AM   #2
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1. "I don't mind coexistence with religion, but religious people seriously need to practice religion in their bedrooms only. As soon as you theists cross over the line and try to interfere with my life through politics, law, and lifestyle, then you can go shove it up you know where and expect no mercy from me."

this is a contradictory statement. I am not allowed to have an opinion on the laws that govern us if it comes form a theological root. do we through out the first amendment. when we vote do have to check our religion at the door. and vote against our own beliefs? why? to appease atheists, at what cost. that is not at all coexistence.

if someone tries to convert you, say i don't believe in things with so little proof, and if they continue to harass you, file harassment charges, the law protects their right to speak in public even if some people disagree. but you don't have to listen. so me talking and practicing my religion outside of my bedroom is my right.

it seems some people can't tolerate being in the presence of a religious person, why are some atheists so sensitive? if you don't believe in God, why is it so bad that I do?

i am absolutely for coexistence but equality among theists and non theists alike. every opinion that is different is allowed to exist, and not just in your bedroom.
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Old June 15th, 2012, 02:06 PM   #3
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I am an Atheist and frankly, I don't care what other people believe as long as they don't shove it in my face. And I certainly don't try to push *my* beliefs (or lack thereof) on anyone else. Live and let live....
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I am an Atheist and frankly, I don't care what other people believe as long as they don't shove it in my face. And I certainly don't try to push *my* beliefs (or lack thereof) on anyone else. Live and let live....
By shove things in your face, do you mean people who try and force you to believe what they consider fact.

Or do you mean when a state in the USA votes down gay marriage, or abortion.
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Old June 15th, 2012, 09:04 PM   #5
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By shove things in your face, do you mean people who try and force you to believe what they consider fact.

Or do you mean when a state in the USA votes down gay marriage, or abortion.
I'm talking about religious beliefs. People can believe whatever they want, but it annoys me when they try to force it on me.

As for politics, I don't think it's right when people base their political campaign on their beliefs. It should be based on what they are going to do to help the country, not whether or not they "believe" in gay marriage.
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I'm talking about religious beliefs. People can believe whatever they want, but it annoys me when they try to force it on me.

As for politics, I don't think it's right when people base their political campaign on their beliefs. It should be based on what they are going to do to help the country, not whether or not they "believe" in gay marriage.
Well gay people are a political pawn as are retirees and minorities

When has anybody forced you to believe their beliefs? I don't understand how in this country at least how someone can force you to do anything and not be braking the law.
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Old June 16th, 2012, 10:49 AM   #7
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Yeah but when a politician decides that homosexuals don't have the same rights as others or abortion should be illegal and then tries to make a law about it, it becomes a problem. Whether or not a gay person should be able to get married is a personal choice. Politicians should focus on helping the homeless, creating a better education system, etc, not forcing their beliefs on the nation.
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Well i really stand on your side of things with the homosexuals but homelessness can not be fixed by polititions, it can only be fixed by kindness and charity, so a polotician's view point on that is just as unimprtant as his view point on homosexuality.

I often say i would vote for a self proclaimed satanist as long as his agenda matches up with my opinions.

Poloticians dont decide on the things listed above, courts do, based on the constitution. If america wanted gay marriage it would have, in most cases we dont, based on beliefs of our people, who better to decide how they are governed.

Furthermore, with gay marriage not being legal how does that force beliefs on someone, any more than it being legal would. Abortion has been legal sence Row vs. Wade who is being forced to believe it is wrong
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My article about futile confrontations between theists and atheists*appeared in the April 2012 Issue of*American Atheist Magazine. The link is:

http://csam.montclair.edu/~kowalski/theo/atheist.html
Good article, Professor. Congrats on the publication!
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Well i really stand on your side of things with the homosexuals but homelessness can not be fixed by polititions, it can only be fixed by kindness and charity, so a polotician's view point on that is just as unimprtant as his view point on homosexuality.

I often say i would vote for a self proclaimed satanist as long as his agenda matches up with my opinions.

Poloticians dont decide on the things listed above, courts do, based on the constitution. If america wanted gay marriage it would have, in most cases we dont, based on beliefs of our people, who better to decide how they are governed.

Furthermore, with gay marriage not being legal how does that force beliefs on someone, any more than it being legal would. Abortion has been legal sence Row vs. Wade who is being forced to believe it is wrong
hehehehe I'm not going to vote so I don't care either way. lol
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