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Old August 23rd, 2016, 03:28 PM   #1
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Maxim #3: Worship the gods.

The gods are varied and many, each addressing some element of life with their own perspective on life. Now to keep things in perspective, the gods, being gods, need nothing that any mere mortal can offer them nor do they have a particular interest is some random person. As such the gods do not require to be worshiped and will not 'smite the unbeliever'. All that being said, a voluntary show of respect is something that attracts attention and is accepted as the compliment that it is. To worship the gods inspires favor from the same and this favor in turn can lead to many benefits denied those who suffer (if that word can be used) the benign neglect typically shown by the gods.

As always, I ask that any atheists that wish to comment limit themselves to the philosophical aspects of the Maxims as I don't want these threads derailed into a general theological debate.
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Old August 23rd, 2016, 04:14 PM   #2
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"Worship of Gods" has very little to do with worship or Gods....it is a societal peer pressure power grab instigated by humans and allowed by purposeful ignorance.

In My Opinion.
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Old August 23rd, 2016, 05:39 PM   #3
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"Worship of Gods" has very little to do with worship or Gods....it is a societal peer pressure power grab instigated by humans and allowed by purposeful ignorance.

In My Opinion.
Says the atheist. The more theological Maxims don't really hold much relevance to anyone that doesn't already accept the premise of theism.
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Old August 24th, 2016, 01:44 AM   #4
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Says the atheist. The more theological Maxims don't really hold much relevance to anyone that doesn't already accept the premise of theism.
Exactly...thus does this "Maxim" become exclusive and invalid for much of the population. It in fact must inherently do so based on the multitude of Gods available...a Christian for instance does not see worship of God in a Muslim praying five times a day, and vice versa.
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Old August 24th, 2016, 09:59 AM   #5
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Exactly...thus does this "Maxim" become exclusive and invalid for much of the population. It in fact must inherently do so based on the multitude of Gods available...a Christian for instance does not see worship of God in a Muslim praying five times a day, and vice versa.

you feel excluded by someone sharing their beliefs about worship?


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you feel excluded by someone sharing their beliefs about worship?


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you feel excluded by someone sharing their beliefs about worship?


No, the beliefs themselves exclude me and anyone else that believes differently. Personally I am pleased to be "Excluded" from such a thing.
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Old August 24th, 2016, 02:01 PM   #8
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No, the beliefs themselves exclude me and anyone else that believes differently. Personally I am pleased to be "Excluded" from such a thing.
I second that emotion!
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Old August 25th, 2016, 05:21 AM   #9
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No, the beliefs themselves exclude me and anyone else that believes differently. Personally I am pleased to be "Excluded" from such a thing.

: I believe X.

: I believe Y.

: Your beliefs in Y exclude me and anyone who believes differently!

: huh ?
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Old August 25th, 2016, 05:32 AM   #10
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One should believe "with a grain of salt".
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Old August 25th, 2016, 05:34 AM   #11
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: I believe X.

: I believe Y.

: Your beliefs in Y exclude me and anyone who believes differently!

: huh ?
Okay....To simplify.

I do not follow your God.
Thus I am going to one hell or another.
I am excluded from being saved and enjoying heavenly bliss or get no virgins....etc....

Religions inherently designate those outside them as excluded from the benefits believed in by followers....in fact many of the same religion are excluded as well, depending on which version of that version they decide upon. It can even be said that every Christian, Catholic, Muslim...whatever, has developed their own version of the version of whatever version they belong to. I guess this means there are no Christians to other Christians...so there really aren't many Christians at all....maybe even just the one.
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Okay....To simplify.

I do not follow your God.
Thus I am going to one hell or another.
I am excluded from being saved and enjoying heavenly bliss or get no virgins....etc....

Religions inherently designate those outside them as excluded from the benefits believed in by followers....in fact many of the same religion are excluded as well, depending on which version of that version they decide upon. It can even be said that every Christian, Catholic, Muslim...whatever, has developed their own version of the version of whatever version they belong to. I guess this means there are no Christians to other Christians...so there really aren't many Christians at all....maybe even just the one.

with all groups there is an in-group and out-group. whether political, collegiate, sports, or even religious...this is the case.
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with all groups there is an in-group and out-group. whether political, collegiate, sports, or even religious...this is the case.
We are not discussing "All Groups"....are we?
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We are not discussing "All Groups"....are we?

no, but...

you are calling out religious groups for their "exclusive nature" but in fact all groups are this way, therefore the complaint becomes invalid.
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no, but...

you are calling out religious groups for their "exclusive nature" but in fact all groups are this way, therefore the complaint becomes invalid.
Generally when discussing God one tends to discuss religion, and generally when a thread is started the debate focusses on the topic.
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