David Cameron's support for gay marriage.

Jan 2013
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I find Cameron's support for gay marriage very confusing. On the one hand, its not a typical Tory Party policy, and its angered and even offended a lot of Tory supporters. There hasn't been a huge campaign for it from the LGBT community, not at this precise moment, not as far as I'm aware, anyway. And given all the upheaval thats just underneath the surface in the Church of England still, about celibacy for gay Church members, there's a lot more trouble waiting in the wings.

On the other hand, its a policy I support; I have two sets of gay-couple friends, one of whom has adopted three children, and wants to marry; and in any case, I believe its right, that anyone who wants to marry should be able to marry. To me, its immaterial if its opposite sex or same sex.

Cameron can sort of have his cake and eat it with this campaign - he can portray himself as socially liberal and socially conservative at the same time - he's extending the right to marry to the gay community, but he's also extending **marriage**, so he can spin this campaign in several directions at once.

It just makes me think he's distracting people from the big economic situation, quite frankly, by pushing so quickly and so hard.

What do others think? Am I missing something here?
 
Oct 2012
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Though I am unschooled in the UK political, it seems the LGTB movement is somewhat universal in the developed world( Muslim excluded). Likely Cameron is simply accepting the inevitable social change and addressing it before he is forced to.
 
Jan 2012
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I am going to have to agree with Tecoyea. It its an inevitable cultural slide, alas I believe that Europe will see it occur in my life time, I am happy for the gay people in Europe but I fear it will be to heavily resisted here.

Like the OP says I really think that this toying with gay marriage on the national level is just a bait and switch. For whatever reason people get all worked up about it. Some even say crap like our nation will end or God will bring destruction upon us like he did in Sodom. So it is a very smelly red herring that typically confused the hound.

I just wish they would quit toying with my relationship. As it stands my lover has just about all of the legal business a wife or husband would, and vise versa. The thing I worry about its our boy. Because legally we can't hold joint custody.
 
May 2012
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The motherland
Perhaps Cameron is the most liberal Tory around and he is not socially conservative but he has made some conservative statements to represent the party especially on the EU to pander to Tory eurosceptics. Cameron's support for gay marriage reflects his personal view as a progressive conservative and he assumed that it was safe to break ranks with his own party.
 
Jan 2012
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I would be really interested in the issues the church is grappling with.
 
Dec 2012
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I think it's as simple as this: leave the government out of marriage and let people marry who they want to marry as long as there is no force involved. If two men or two women want to marry, who is that the business of David Cameron, Barack Obama or Stephen Harper?
 
Jan 2013
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I think it's as simple as this: leave the government out of marriage and let people marry who they want to marry as long as there is no force involved. If two men or two women want to marry, who is that the business of David Cameron, Barack Obama or Stephen Harper?

Spot on.

Consenting adults.
 
Jan 2013
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South of England
Well, absolutely, consenting adults, no one else's business, of course!

Thing is, I was wondering about Cameron's motives for pushing *now*. I agree its an inevitable cultural development, but it seems to me that the pace is being forced - one day, Cameron was saying the Church of England would have to marry gay couples, the next he was saying the CofE would be banned from marrying gay couples. And individual ministers started popping up saying that they'd like to be able to, if the Church hierarchy could come to some agreement.

I just think he has an agenda, and I'm not sure what it is.
 
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