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I'm expecting it to be Trump and Sanders personally.
 
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I heard an interesting point regarding Trump. He's objectively a bully, the question is if you see him as the guy in the school yard or the guy in the foxhole with you.
 
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I heard an interesting point regarding Trump. He's objectively a bully, the question is if you see him as the guy in the school yard or the guy in the foxhole with you.

Or....the guy who gets his ass kicked for picking on girls and cries all the way home to mommy.
 
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All I can say is this will be interesting and I hope you are correct.

You hoping Trump wins is amusing. :giggle:

I see Trump and Sanders basically having the same message (namely a condemnation of the party system and a need for a new, revolutionary order) with the difference mostly being rhetoric.
 
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You hoping Trump wins is amusing. :giggle:

I see Trump and Sanders basically having the same message (namely a condemnation of the party system and a need for a new, revolutionary order) with the difference mostly being rhetoric.

I expect Trump to win and eventually flame out.
 
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I expect Trump to win and eventually flame out.

I disagree. As far as the primary goes, I'm in complete agreement with reason10. Unless something surprising happens in Iowa AND NH, Trump will be the nominee. Any doubts I had were based on the assumption that the field would narrow ahead of the primary.
 
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Cruz has won and Huckabee is out. I was expecting Trump to win and Rubio did quite well.
 
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So Clinton claims victory (interrupting Cruz who actually won), the pundits scratch their heads while referencing 'Dewey Beats Truman' and Sanders has a good chuckle as he points out it's a tie and he didn't need to beg anyone for money to pull it off.

Amusing and watching Clinton wipe the egg off her face will be even more so. From what I gather (she was supposed to wait until after Cruz said his piece and Bill and Chelsea were supposed to talk 1st) someone in her campaign ****ed up the math prompting her premature claim to victory, this was compounded when the official numbers were revised (in Sanders' favor) due to an overcount and she panicked. This could sink her, Sanders may not even have to pounce (reinforcing his image of NOT being a mud slinger) considering what the media and Cruz are likely to do to her. Maybe he'll even come to her 'defence' like he did on the emails to put himself on the high horse, it certainly helped his numbers the last time he pulled that trick (claiming it was political suicide on his part was a nice touch).
 
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Clinton will take this extremely slim victory and ham it up into NH...it will not effect Sanders. Trump will continue doing what he does into NH and we shall see.

Huckabee and Co, have wisely bowed out.
 
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Sanders went up against the greatest, most rigged political machine since Tammany Hall with no major donors, no major endorsements and (at least at 1st) almost no name recognition and showed himself her equal.

This was a Sanders victory hands down and even the Clinton owned media is saying it. I'm not criticizing Clinton, spin is a huge part of the game but facts are facts. She'd be in okay shape had she not jumped the gun and claimed victory. Doing so 40 minutes before the Dems said, "Oops, we counted Clinton supporters more than once. Sanders is actually in the same place" didn't help her either. NV will decide this I think and I think Sanders will have the better strategy there.
 
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