Italy a traitor!

Jul 2009
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Taliban fighters wearing French uniforms and wielding French weapons.

The 60 French solders were joking how they got the cushy assignment, being sent to hold the most secure region in Afghanistan. Only it wasn't secure as illustrated when, about a month after arriving, the Taliban launched an attack killing 10 and wounding dozens. Indeed the attack was so overwhelming it's accepted that if not for a nearby American SF team, the French would have been killed to the man. So how did the French, thinking themselves in the land of milk and honey, end up walking into a hornets nest and getting stung? Well as it turns out, the reason the Taliban didn't attack the Italians during their control of the region was because they were on the Italian's payroll.

The French moved in. The French weren't Italians. The French died.

The Italians are responsible for the deaths of 10 and vary nearly 60 Frenchmen. The Italians, in full knowledge of where it would be spent, sent regular payments of $10,000s to each Taliban commander. The Italians covered it up and even after being found out by the CIA, continue to deny everything. The Italians have, in other words, committed acts of treason, espionage and war against France and by extension all of NATO.

The Italians are trators. They have aided and abetted the enemy and are directly responsible for financing an attack that almost wiped out 2 NATO platoons.

The Italians must pay! :mad:
 
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According to the article in Timesonline that you quoted, the Taliban had been paid off by the Italian intelligence. Who knows, the Italian army might now have known about the pay offs. Quite likely they are as upset about the whole thing as the French have been.

On the other hand, if we are going to go down the blame lane, we could also blame the United States CIA for not warning the French. If there had been heavily armed American troops in the area, then obviously they must have known it was a dangerous area. We could also blame the French for not having done their investigation of the area they had been manouvring in better. Why were they virtually unarmed? Surely soldiers can't rely only on historic information, they have to check out current information? Sort of does not make sense to me at all.
 
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According to the article in Timesonline that you quoted, the Taliban had been paid off by the Italian intelligence. Who knows, the Italian army might now have known about the pay offs. Quite likely they are as upset about the whole thing as the French have been.

On the other hand, if we are going to go down the blame lane, we could also blame the United States CIA for not warning the French. If there had been heavily armed American troops in the area, then obviously they must have known it was a dangerous area. We could also blame the French for not having done their investigation of the area they had been manouvring in better. Why were they virtually unarmed? Surely soldiers can't rely only on historic information, they have to check out current information? Sort of does not make sense to me at all.

What makes you think we knew? The CIA found out after the attacks after intercepting a phone call.
 
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What makes you think we knew? The CIA found out after the attacks after intercepting a phone call.
I got that info from the article you quoted in your original posting:
US intelligence officials were flabbergasted when they found out through intercepted telephone conversations that the Italians had also been buying off militants, notably in Herat province in the far west. In June 2008, several weeks before the ambush, the US Ambassador in Rome made a d?marche, or diplomatic protest, to the Berlusconi Government over allegations concerning the tactic.
 
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Aren't such protests public knowledge? I've never heard of an 'official protest' being classified.
Now you've lost me with your question. First you asked me how I knew that the CIA had prior knowledge, and I quoted the text in the materials you had provided that referred to this, and now you are questioning me about the validity of that information? The article said that US intelligence officials had known about this and had been worried following which the US Ambassador had complained about this to the Italian Government. Common sense says that they also knew about this, and should have warned the French . :confused:
 
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