Mexico and America

Jul 2009
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Mexican elections are taking place and the bullets are flying. The situation is so bad that Hillary, back when she was SecState, declared Mexico a failed state to rival Iraq. This was after the IS became a thing. Considering the rapid collapse of the Mexican state, the danger to Americans via spill over and the flood of refugees crossing the border would it not be wise to move in and stabilize the situation?

A take over wouldn't be too hard. Mexico is a federal republic like ours with states, an independent federal district to keep the capital out of state politics, a Congress made up of a Senate and House of Representatives all led by a president elected in a general/mid-term election cycle. Aside from differing laws (How's that any different than the current 50 states?) and elections being on a different schedule it's the same situation.

Here is how I'd handle the integration. Rubber stamp statehood (since they're already states) making the only requirement being an updated constitution. Allow the current governors and state governments to stay in power. Allow the current senators to stay in power. Allow the governors to appoint representatives in the numbers their population's entitle them to (this would be a 1 time thing while Congressional Districts get drawn up and the governors would be strongly encouraged to appoint their current elected Representatives). The presidency and Cabinet would of course be abolished as redundant. As for Mexico, F.D. I'd keep it as is. By maintaining it as a capital, we'd respect the cities heritage, it'd serve as a memorial to an independent Mexico and It'd offer the Federal Government a place to go if they had to evacuate Washington for whatever reason (such as a hurricane) allowing the government to get to safety without disrupting it's operation.

With all the warlords running around and the total uselessness of the current government, I don't imagine the locals would be in a position to complain even if they wanted to.
 
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Oct 2012
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My option would be a bit less complicated and possibly easier:

1) "Offer" each state in Mexico the opportunity to join with the United States through statewide elections.
2) Create a new branch of our military with the task of removing cartel activity from Mexican States that wish to be incorporated.
3) Run U.S. type elections within the new state to elect senators to our congress using both American and Mexican candidates.
4) Form a police force to retain the peace and stability of the new U.S state and allow the population to use intrastate commerce and movement.

There would obviously be far more complex and painful integration involved...but it is a start.
 
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Jul 2009
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My option would be a bit less complicated and possibly easier:

1) "Offer" each state in Mexico the opportunity to join with the United States through statewide elections.
2) Create a new branch of our military with the task of removing cartel activity from Mexican States that wish to be incorporated.
3) Run U.S. type elections within the new state to elect senators to our congress using both American and Mexican candidates.
4) Form a police force to retain the peace and stability of the new U.S state and allow the population to use intrastate commerce and movement.

There would obviously be far more complex and painful integration involved...but it is a start.

Your way way would start a war (and a civil war with Mexico). My way would conquer the whole place before the Mexican 'government' even knew it was being taken over. A lightning strike of Mexico city to seize the capital and arrest the government, a massive build up on the border (kept under wraps as much as possible until the time came) and a public deceleration of our mostly peaceful intentions. Done with little resistance due to the conflict with the cartels.

There may be a more elegant way of doing this but an independent Mexico is bad for both sides at this point.
 
Jul 2009
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A border patrol helicopter just got shot down! This needs to stop.
 
Oct 2012
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weird, i had a similar line of thinking some months ago. more in relation to the porous border, illegals, etc, though.

specifically, give them a hardline choice of two worlds, allow people to vote to become a state of the united states, or close connections (close borders, kill trade) with them until they change their minds. we essentially offer them prosperity in return they become a state, and join us.
 
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weird, i had a similar line of thinking some months ago. more in relation to the porous border, illegals, etc, though.

specifically, give them a hardline choice of two worlds, allow people to vote to become a state of the united states, or close connections (close borders, kill trade) with them until they change their minds. we essentially offer them prosperity in return they become a state, and join us.

Killing trade would just make the situation with the cartels worse and fuel more immigration. The border is just too big to lock down without a massive military build up and the abandonment of all border towns/cities. It'll never happen.
 
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