Where does Morality come from?

Oct 2012
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Louisville, Ky
Many claim being good or "Moral" are elements of a God or religion, others say they do not need a God to think and do what's right.....where do you folks fall in this?
 
Dec 2019
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I used to think morality came from religion up until a few months ago , but now have a different view . The reason being , I frequent a survival forum regularly and the question was brought up if you and your family were starving " would you steal ". The answer nearly ' all the people claiming to be religious said they would steal including a retired minister , The two atheist that don't believe in any kind of supreme being said " they would not steal " .
 
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Oct 2019
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San Bernardino, CA
It is merely "monkey see, monkey do". Compare behavior in south side of Chicago to other suburbs. One does as one sees.
 
Oct 2012
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I used to think morality came from religion up until a few months ago , but now have a different view . The reason being , I frequent a survival forum regularly and the question was brought up if you and your family were starving " would you steal ". The answer nearly ' all the people claiming to be religious said they would steal including a retired minister , The two atheist that don't believe in any kind of supreme being said " they would not steal " .
The Atheists lied...…...plain and simple. Now if the choice was to kill someone it would be a tough call.
 
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Religion, Morality, Secular Ideals, and Ethics Education

Even when people do not believe that ethics stems from a deity in the form of the commands of a person, it is difficult (but not impossible3) to imbue reverence for right without the imagery developed with that idea over the centuries. Reference to God in many speeches and documents shows the important solemnity and significance attached to the ideals and promises linked to the invoking of His name. As Bellah points out, George Washington said in his farewell address: "Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both forbid us to expect that National morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle." But I would go a step further and say that even when people do not believe that God is literally what makes morality true or meaningful, that even when right and wrong are not just about justice and reward or punishment, and that even when people with minds refined by education or their own intellectual discoveries believe morality has meaning and authority without God, or beyond God, the beauty and power of ethical language couched in religious terms used for centuries can be most appropriate, concise, powerful and persuasive. Even if the rhetoric of religious morality is not taken literally, it is still powerful, and perhaps most unconsciously compelling -- and still speaks the truth when understood figuratively and translated into non-religious language4. And even if one wants to go beyond, say, Biblical passages to make a moral point, it is rhetorically powerful and psychologically persuasive to begin with the Biblical passage and then interpret or expand upon it.
 
May 2020
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The California Senate and Assembly are considering six odd pieces of legislation in the last week of the 2020 legislative session.

They include:
AB2218, which would fund sterilizing drugs and surgeries for children and adults with gender dysphoria.
SB132, authored by Sen. Scott Wiener (D-SF), gives male inmates the legal right to live in women’s prisons and requires guards to use language confirming gender identities such as “transsexual, non-binary, two-spirit and māhū.”
Another Wiener bill, SB145, lowers the penalties for adults who have sex will same-sex minors.
 
May 2020
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California legislators passed a law Monday easing sex offender registry rules for those who commit sodomy or other sex acts with minors in order to end “discrimination against LGBTQ young people on the sex offender registry.”

The bill, which now heads to Gov. Gavin Newsom’s desk, would "exempt from mandatory registration under the act a person convicted of certain offenses involving minors if the person is not more than 10 years older than the minor and if that offense is the only one requiring the person to register,” according to the bill.

Adults less than 10 years older than the minor they are convicted of engaging in oral or anal sex with are not automatically added to the sex-offender registry. The decision whether or not to add them is left up to a judge under the new bill, referred to as SB145.

Under current state law, judges are given discretion to keep teenagers off the sex-offender registry for having sex with someone close to their own age, but it only applies to “penile-vaginal” intercourse, and gay and transgender rights advocates argue this discriminates against gay teenagers.

“This eliminates discrimination against LGBTQ youth in our criminal justice system,” the bill’s sponsor, San Francisco Democratic state Rep. Scott Wiener said about the legislation.

“SB 145 ends discrimination against #LGBTQ young people on the sex offender registry. Currently, these youth are forced onto the registry for consensual sex — even if a judge doesn’t think it’s appropriate — in situations where straight youth are not,” Wiener added in a Facebook post. “This discrimination destroys lives.”

The bill passed through the 80-member state Assembly by a vote of 41-18, before being approved in the 40-member Senate by a vote of 23-10 with some legislators voicing their objection.

“I cannot in my mind as a mother understand how sex between a 24-year-old and a 14-year-old could ever be consensual, how it could ever not be a registrable offense,” Democratic Assemblywoman Lorena Gonzalez said. “We should never give up on this idea that children should be in no way subject to a predator.”

 
Aug 2020
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Morality comes from anyplace where the IPOTUS isn't at. For example don't expect to find morality at Mar A Lago, the Trump hump the rump capital of the world.
 
May 2020
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The coronavirus disproportionately affects LGBTQ people compared to their straight peers. Underlying health conditions linked to severe coronavirus symptoms are more prevalent in LGBTQ people, as discrimination can increase vulnerabilities to illness and limit access to health services.

 
Oct 2012
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Louisville, Ky
Does peer pressure play into Morality and if so are you actually a morally sound person or just playing at it?
 
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