Evangelicals lower ethical standards to embrace Trump

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1. Randall Balmer is the John Phillips Professor in Religion at Dartmouth College and the author of Evangelicalism in America.

The following are excerpts from Randall Balmer's 18 February 2018 opinion piece headlined "Under Trump, America's religious right is rewriting its code of ethics" with the subheading "From scorning immigrants to accepting the president’s profanity, evangelicals are proving just how flexible their values can be".

(Begin excerpts)
The religious right’s wholesale embrace of the Republican party and of Donald J Trump, both as candidate and as president, has necessitated a rewriting of evangelical ethics. Here’s a summary, with annotations.

* Lying is all right as long as it serves a higher purpose

Yes, we know all about that business about not bearing false witness in the Ten Commandments, but that was a very long time ago....

And all those websites fact-checking our president, claiming that he told more than 2,000 lies his first year in office? Big deal. He’s also pro-life, and he’s trying to root out transgender folks in the military, so cut the guy some slack....

* It’s no problem to be married more than, well, twice

....Yes, Jesus said: “Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery, and whoever marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery.”...

* Immigrants are scum

We grant that Jesus said something about welcoming the stranger and feeding the hungry. And Leviticus says: “The alien who resides with you shall be to you as the citizen among you; you shall love the alien as yourself.” But our careful study of scriptural texts has led us to conclude that the almighty had Norwegians in mind, not Mexicans or Salvadorans.

* Vulgarity is a sign of strength and resolve

The president’s scatological comments about Haiti and African nations provided a welcome relief to the rhetoric of those coddling the so-called Dreamers. As Robert Jeffress, pastor of First Baptist Church in Dallas, noted, Brother Trump was “right on target”.

* White lives matter (much more than others)

...We took the Brother Trump at his word when he declared that the ranks of white supremacists and neo-Nazis included “some very fine people”. That’s why none of us criticized him....

* There’s no harm in spending time with porn stars

....Regarding that messy situation with Stormy Daniels, think of the opportunities for the president to share what Franklin Graham calls his “concern for Christian values”. We’re confident that as details emerge, we’ll learn that the Brother Trump was discussing his theological perspectives on human depravity and the second coming.

* It’s all right for adults to date children

We’re not yet prepared to embrace pedophilia, but we see nothing wrong with a 30-something attorney trolling the local shopping mall for teenage dates. After all, didn’t Jesus say, “suffer the little children to come unto me”? Roy Moore was simply being Christ-like. Besides, he opposes abortion, and he asked their mothers for permission.

* The ends justify the means

...Too many Americans think of evangelicals as dogmatic and uncompromising, so we’re eager to demonstrate that when it comes to ethical standards we can indeed be flexible. Very flexible. (End excerpts)

Source: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/feb/18/donald-trump-evangelicals-code-of-ethics
 
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oh another pointless GIF.

if you were an active writer in the pre-internet era,
you'd probably put a smudge of poop on a letter before mailing it.
 
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1. Randall Balmer is the John Phillips Professor in Religion at Dartmouth College and the author of Evangelicalism in America.

The following are excerpts from Randall Balmer's 18 February 2018 opinion piece headlined "Under Trump, America's religious right is rewriting its code of ethics" with the subheading "From scorning immigrants to accepting the president’s profanity, evangelicals are proving just how flexible their values can be".
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* It’s no problem to be married more than, well, twice

....Yes, Jesus said: “Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery, and whoever marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery.”...

* Immigrants are scum..

this poor Randall fellow sounds like he was bit by a leftist hate zombie and has contracted the disease himself.

No matter, lets see if I can deconstruct this with as few words as possible:

Christians forgive Trump his shortcomings because they see his heart is in the right place. (14 words)
 
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sometimes it is.
you made a decent point in your post above but then ruined it with a GIF that adds nothing to the point you made. in fact it takes away from it.
Ralph47/Thunderbird57 has made any chance of this forum doing well disappear. Worse, he doesn’t understand it.

I’d fix it, if the tag under my name actually meant anything.


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When it is a choice of two evils, the rational person will ALWAYS chose the lesser of the two! - hello?!

My great friend, you are so rational that you always choose the greater of the two evils! :)

It doesn't matter if the two evil dudes plunge down to earth. There are over 327,000,000 capable Americans including you and arcturus ready to take over their place.

In particular, I always believe arcturus is the best person to rise up to take over the place of your idol and cult leader.

P.S. I wonder whether you have any link with the "two swindlers" in Hans Christian Andersen's satire that you fight so hard in defence of "the Emperor's new clothes". :cool:

http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/us-population/

http://andersen.sdu.dk/vaerk/hersholt/TheEmperorsNewClothes_e.html
 
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this poor Randall fellow sounds like he was bit by a leftist hate zombie and has contracted the disease himself.

No matter, lets see if I can deconstruct this with as few words as possible:

Christians forgive Trump his shortcomings because they see his heart is in the right place. (14 words)
My dear friend, there are so many Christian groups and cults in the US. Hence, only "Christians" who have close ties with Trump will forgive his so-called "shortcomings".

In conclusion, I appeal to you to put your heart not in the "left" or "right" place but in "the place of conscience" instead.

https://www.therichest.com/rich-list/most-shocking/10-of-the-most-dangerous-religious-cults/

https://www.quora.com/How-many-religious-cults-are-there-in-America
 
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My great friend, you are so rational that you always choose the greater of the two evils! :)

It doesn't matter if the two evil dudes plunge down to earth. There are over 327,000,000 capable Americans including you and arcturus ready to take over their place.

In particular, I always believe arcturus is the best person to rise up to take over the place of your idol and cult leader.

P.S. I wonder whether you have any link with the "two swindlers" in Hans Christian Andersen's satire that you fight so hard in defence of "the Emperor's new clothes". :cool:

http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/us-population/

http://andersen.sdu.dk/vaerk/hersholt/TheEmperorsNewClothes_e.html
Does it make you feel superior when you call everyone supporting Trump cult members? Because it certainly doesn’t further a desire to converse with you. I’m sorry that you appear to have difficulties with your party having lost so many elections.


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Does it make you feel superior when you call everyone supporting Trump cult members? Because it certainly doesn’t further a desire to converse with you. I’m sorry that you appear to have difficulties with your party having lost so many elections.


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You really:

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Does it make you feel superior when you call everyone supporting Trump cult members? Because it certainly doesn’t further a desire to converse with you. I’m sorry that you appear to have difficulties with your party having lost so many elections.


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I liken myself to the small boy who revealed that the Emperor had no clothes in Hans Christian Andersen's satire.

My great friend, please stop telling the world that you see very beautiful clothes on the Emperor's body. Check your conscience please. :)
 
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I liken myself to the small boy who revealed that the Emperor had no clothes in Hans Christian Andersen's satire.

My great friend, please stop telling the world that you see very beautiful clothes on the Emperor's body. Check your conscience please. :)
Another post with no substance. Why did a Trump win? If the Democrats think about that, they could figure out how to win in 2020.


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Another post with no substance. Why did a Trump win? If the Democrats think about that, they could figure out how to win in 2020.


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Trump won becuase the Dems are dogmatic idiots. The Repubs may have choses the most despicable option but the larger strategy is sound. The Dems had a chance at doing the same (without the 3 year old level insults) but went with the corporate, neo-liberal hag instead and preceded to get crushed. America, right and left, is gripped by revolutionary fervor and only the Repubs have responded to this new political reality.
 
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Trump won becuase the Dems are dogmatic idiots. The Repubs may have choses the most despicable option but the larger strategy is sound. The Dems had a chance at doing the same (without the 3 year old level insults) but went with the corporate, neo-liberal hag instead and preceded to get crushed. America, right and left, is gripped by revolutionary fervor and only the Repubs have responded to this new political reality.
Donald J Trump three his hat into the ring to run for the highest office in our land. He won first time out. He’s not a perfect candidate. He’s not a perfect president. But he is the president. He won the election.

He won because he said what the people wanted to hear. He didn’t go with politically correct speech. Hillary R Clinton lost because she failed to campaign, at the end of the election in the Rust Belt. The Trump Campaign filled venues and spoke to the people.


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Donald J Trump three his hat into the ring to run for the highest office in our land. He won first time out. He’s not a perfect candidate. He’s not a perfect president. But he is the president. He won the election.

He won because he said what the people wanted to hear. He didn’t go with politically correct speech. Hillary R Clinton lost because she failed to campaign, at the end of the election in the Rust Belt. The Trump Campaign filled venues and spoke to the people.


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The Trump Campaign filled venues and spoke to the people? Yes, like the sheep “bleating” in George Orwell's Animal Farm. There you could often hear your cult leader’s infamous Hitler-like rabble-rousing chants: "Lock her up! Lock her up!"

Stop playing with your iPad Pro. Instead, read books and do homework on the Internet. Wake up your ideas and read the following article on the most disgraceful moment in the modern history of the American Presidency. :)

https://www.esquire.com/news-politi...ump-vladimir-putin-press-conference-disgrace/
 
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The Trump Campaign filled venues and spoke to the people? Yes, like the sheep “bleating” in George Orwell's Animal Farm. There you could often hear your cult leader’s infamous Hitler-like rabble-rousing chants: "Lock her up! Lock her up!"

Stop playing with your iPad Pro. Instead, read books and do homework on the Internet. Wake up your ideas and read the following article on the most disgraceful moment in the modern history of the American Presidency. :)

https://www.esquire.com/news-politi...ump-vladimir-putin-press-conference-disgrace/
If economic prosperity for ALL Americans is "disgraceful", I DON'T want gracefulness - hello?! :D
 
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The Trump Campaign filled venues and spoke to the people? Yes, like the sheep “bleating” in George Orwell's Animal Farm. There you could often hear your cult leader’s infamous Hitler-like rabble-rousing chants: "Lock her up! Lock her up!"

Stop playing with your iPad Pro. Instead, read books and do homework on the Internet. Wake up your ideas and read the following article on the most disgraceful moment in the modern history of the American Presidency. :)

https://www.esquire.com/news-politi...ump-vladimir-putin-press-conference-disgrace/
Esquire? Really?


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