other nations equivalent to trump?

Nov 2016
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Victoria, BC
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The most obvious counterpart to the American Wrecker-in-Chief was Berlusconi in Italy.

Silvio Berlusconi is an Italian media mogul and former Prime Minister of Italy who owns the largest broadcasting company in that country, Mediaset. His promises to sell off his personal assets to avoid conflicts of interest were never fulfilled, which sparked controversy throughout his terms in office. Berlusconi is a controversial figure in modern Italian politics: his tenure as Prime Minister was racked with scandalous sex affairs and poor judgement and decision-making. These events were widely covered by the media, drawing outcry from many of his Italian contemporaries and worldwide counterparts.
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Jul 2009
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Tempting national suicide and starving your own people is not logical.
Knowing that the West's commitment to humanitarianism will prevent that and knowing the aid the West sends to prevent it will prop you up and provide a propaganda victory is very logical if you're not worried about the little guy. The advent of nukes is insurance against the West ever deciding war is a better deal than extortion. Everything NK does is calculated.
 
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Oct 2012
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Knowing that the West's commitment to humanitarianism will prevent that and knowing the aid the West sends to prevent it will prop you up and provide a propaganda victory is very logical if you're not worried about the little guy. The advent of nukes is insurance against the West ever deciding war is a better deal than extortion. Everything NK does is calculated.
Basing your future on assumption is also illogical.
 
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Basing your future on assumption is also illogical.
Thus the nukes. If NK seems illogical, it's only becuase we view government as being for and by the people. If you accept it as a mafia looking to enrich and perpetuate itself, it makes far more since.
 
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Aug 2017
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Medway Towns, Kent
#27
If you accept it as a mafia looking to enrich and perpetuate itself, it makes far more since.
It seems that Americans (accepted this is a generalisation) seem to view the world as they think it should be rather than how it actually is. This is why you are getting yourselves into wars/situations which you find it difficult to extract yourselves from.
 
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#28
It seems that Americans (accepted this is a generalisation) seem to view the world as they think it should be rather than how it actually is. This is why you are getting yourselves into wars/situations which you find it difficult to extract yourselves from.
Relatively few parts, but ones ignored at the peril of the entire World. :cool:
 
Nov 2016
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Thus the nukes. If NK seems illogical, it's only becuase we view government as being for and by the people. If you accept it as a mafia looking to enrich and perpetuate itself, it makes far more since.
That is the error which most people here make --- to think that government is for and by the people. That is what makes it appear to be senseless.

The whole structure of American society makes far more sense if you "think of it as a Mafia looking to enrich and perpetuate itself."
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#32
That is the error which most people here make --- to think that government is for and by the people. That is what makes it appear to be senseless.

The whole structure of American society makes far more sense if you "think of it as a Mafia looking to enrich and perpetuate itself."
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Out in left field with that.
 
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Opa Locka
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That is the error which most people here make --- to think that government is for and by the people. That is what makes it appear to be senseless.

The whole structure of American society makes far more sense if you "think of it as a Mafia looking to enrich and perpetuate itself."
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Ya but America is the Romans trying to bend the world to it's will. NK is the Triad murdering, extorting, smuggling and slaving their way to the top.
 
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Ya but America is the Romans trying to bend the world to it's will. NK is the Triad murdering, extorting, smuggling and slaving their way to the top.
....which is exactly how the Romans expanded their empire...??
Or was that your point?
 
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Jul 2009
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Opa Locka
#37
....which is exactly how the Romans expanded their empire...??
Or was that your point?
My point is that the US is an all conquering empire while NK is gangland with no ambition beyond leadership's personal wealth. You don't want to be on the wrong side of either but they're not the same thing.
 
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Nov 2017
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FL Treasure Coast & South Central FL
#38
My point is that the US is an all conquering empire while NK is gangland with no ambition beyond leadership's personal wealth. You don't want to be on the wrong side of either but they're not the same thing.
LOL!!! WHO was EVER conquered? (whereby we added to U.S. territory) :rolleyes:
 

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