USA Medical System

Jan 16, 2009
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Manchester [UK]
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I hope this is something Obama sorts.

I live in the UK and have ALWAYS wanted to move to the US when I was older to live there however after watching the movie "SICKO" I was put right off.

I am so shocked that the USA has such a lack of respect for human life here in the UK we get FREE medical treatment and care sick pay amongst other things that the citizens of America don't seem to get.

Does anyone know if Obama has plans to tackle this issue?

Many countries have a better life expectancy than the USA and due to the poor and VERY expensive medical care I am not surprised.

I think when a medical system becomes commercialised then we need to worry insurance companies should not control financing medical systems it just isn't right.
 

myp

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Jan 14, 2009
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Most people believe that Obama does want to put some sort of universal healthcare system in place, but there is sure to be a fight put up by conservatives and libertarians who oppose the idea. Universal healthcare isn't always as great as it seems because in the long run it is too expensive and it ends up costing the taxpayer the money anyway. Look at the state of England's finances and you can see the burden that universal healthcare is putting on it. Same goes for Canada.

As for quality, free market healthcare has always had better quality than its socialized counterpart. The United States currently has some of the top doctors in the world and one of the more advanced systems in the world.

I believe that the best healthcare system is one produced by a free market. What we need in America is a change in the system because the current system gives too much power and support to insurance companies, which needs to be reduced.
 
Jan 16, 2009
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Manchester [UK]
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Yes I do agree with you the USA Health Cares facilities seem great and use do have some of the very best doctors.

However like you said whilst it is in the hands of insurance companies damage is being done and people going without the treatment they need.

I mean to get by here in the UK paying rent gas and electric amongst other things is hard enough some of us can only just get by paying for medical insurance each month would just be a strain on so many and leave people without the care they need.
 

myp

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Jan 14, 2009
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Rick said:
However like you said whilst it is in the hands of insurance companies damage is being done and people going without the treatment they need.
Yes, but what is needed to fix this is getting rid of laws that favor certain companies and hurt competition, which in turn hurts the reduction of prices.

Rick said:
I mean to get by here in the UK paying rent gas and electric amongst other things is hard enough some of us can only just get by paying for medical insurance each month would just be a strain on so many and leave people without the care they need.
Exactly, you are paying all those taxes so you are still paying for healthcare. I believe that a person should have the right not to buy healthcare if they don't want to or if they don't need it and universal healthcare makes them buy it either way.
 
Jan 16, 2009
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Manchester [UK]
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Just out or curiosity how much would you actually be paying for a health care plan per month on insurance you see tax in the UK isn't that much when we work so it doesn't really hurt me around 10% of my wages covers everything 10% isn't a great deal at all I wouldn't like to be paying out of the nose and a lot more for a private insurance company!!!
 
#6
Obama does want to start a new system of health care but I also think that people will oppose him. Mostly the health care companies because they will lose a ton of money.
 
Jan 18, 2009
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I think Obama will fix the system so fast he get America out of the war in Europe, since that cost really much and we America really needs that money now.

And I really pray that the system i America will be so good as in Sweden or other European country. There we talk nice system!
 
Jan 18, 2009
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I live in the UK also and think its great how our health care works, although I would love to move to the US for many different reasons and I think that Obama will sort this out, although it will take some time.
 

The Parakeet

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Jan 19, 2009
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I don't think Obama was going to do a true "Universal Health Care System". What I saw was that he was going to open medicare up to anyone who wanted it. This isn't a bad idea as long as it works as a subsized plan for basic insurance. Theorhetically, this would help the needy get into the system and create a market for cheaper health care to provide basic aid.

The problem I see with the socialized system of health care is two fold. First, from what I've seen of the Scandanavian's treatment of it, it only works in a fairly healthy country. They are freaking out right now (from what I read in their own press releases) because the growing obesity rate in the country is straining the system.

Second, it is often inefficient. Two people I've talked to from Canada pointed out how they usually just ignored problems because they'd have to wait for weeks to see a doctor. That's just not a good sytem. There at least need to be options for privatization.

I would like to see a hybrid system put into place here. If medicare was made more open, then there should be a way to tweak the system and make it better. Going full socialized is an unsafe jump into new waters. Our system is far from hopeless.
 
Nov 21, 2017
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Behind the 8 ball
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I live in the UK and have ALWAYS wanted to move to the US when I was older to live there however after watching the movie "SICKO" I was put right off.
Problem with that Hollywood fantasy, is it was 100% FAKE!!! :rolleyes: