It's stupid and pointless to lock someone up because they had sex with a teenager. It's stupid, teens have sex with teens and adults have sex with adults, so why can't adults have sex with teens? Hell I have several friends who could go to prison for having sex with their 13-17 year old girlfriends, just because they are 18-21 years old. Hell right now I'm interested in a woman who is 17, but we wouldn't legally be able to have sex because I'm 18. My last girlfriend was 13 years old, and that was when I was 18 also. It's just a really stupid rule. There are people who have gone to prison and are registered sex offenders because they had sex with the person who is currently their wife, but they weren't when they had sex. Technically it's not pedophilia if they are 13 or older, so it has nothing to do with pedophilia. In some US states you can get married at 13. It's just a pointless law that puts good people behind bars. At 13 they are a teenager and able to make their own decisions. Who else would like the age of consent to be lowered to 13?
Men don't go to prison for having sex with an underage girl. They go to prison when they stop having sex with her and she gets mad at him and calls the police.
If you have friends who are having sex with underage girls and you know it is illegal they probably do too. You makes your choice and you takes your chances.
Most states have age gap provisions that deal with the bulk of your complaint.
Desire for sex with a teenage girl is not pedophilia it is ephebophilia.
I don't want the age of consent dropped. If stupid men wish to gamble their future so they can have sex with a girl under 16 they get what they get.
If you have friends who are having sex with underage girls and you know it is illegal they probably do too. You makes your choice and you takes your chances.
Most states have age gap provisions that deal with the bulk of your complaint.
Desire for sex with a teenage girl is not pedophilia it is ephebophilia.
I don't want the age of consent dropped. If stupid men wish to gamble their future so they can have sex with a girl under 16 they get what they get.
As soon as a person hits puberty (whenever that is, it's not set) they should be given a mental test to determine how mentally meter they are. If they 'pass' they should have the right of consent, the right to vote and if their physical development allows for it (and only if it does) the right to drink and/or smoke. They should also have the right to work unrestricted and join the military upon finishing high school. If they 'fail' the test, they should be denied everything I just listed (aside from unrestricted work after finishing high school) until they do 'pass'. Every test will be different and will consist of prompt essays, interviews and psychiatric evaluations (so no point is studying, it's a test of maturity, not knowledge).
It's far more fair (and logical) then some arbitrary age and not so pedophiliac seeming as the wording of your own argument is.
It's far more fair (and logical) then some arbitrary age and not so pedophiliac seeming as the wording of your own argument is.
Fair? Doesn't exist outside the lab and most would argue it doesn't exist there either.
Logical? Gimme a break. Those tests are subjective opinions not quantifiable fact. Further, you offer a system where a girl can say, "yeah, passed the test" and the man has a choice to believe her or not. That differs in no meaningful way from her saying, "yeah, I'm old enough."
My post accurately descdribed the law and how it often gets applied.
Lastly, my description accurately describes the difference between pedophilia and ephebophilia. Most people mean the latter when they say the former.
Everything is subjective. Hell even undeniable facts like Laws of Physics can become nothing but a fun idea if you come at it the right way. Some things are (like the Laws of Physics) are less subjective then others but the point remains. In this case the 'facts' would be based on accepted moral standards. My idea would also require certification. Ya people can make fakes if they have the tech but it works better then it doesn't.
No it isn't. If it were there would be no need for the words subjective or objective.
What is your name?
How old are you?
When were you born?
These are all objective questions.
What way would that be?
So, your conceding that your idea would work no improvement but require a meaningless test. Wonderful.
No it isn't. If it were there would be no need for the words subjective or objective.
What is your name?
How old are you?
When were you born?
These are all objective questions.
Reality isn't set. Perspective, opinion and environment can radically alter how 2 people see the same event. Time is an excellent example of this.
What way would that be?
Black holes for 1.
So, your conceding that your idea would work no improvement but require a meaningless test. Wonderful.
And setting the age at 18 is different how? It's arbitrary, at least my idea has a logical pattern to it.
Your idea was a waste of time plain and simple. It offered nothing in the way of improving anything. It actually created an additional problem. If a girl will lie about being old enough she'll lie about passing your test. In either case believing her comes with risks. Your example doubles the number of risks.
Care to elaborate on how physics is subjective? I'm dying to hear that one.
Age of copnsent is a state issue. It is not arbitrary. If it were the age of consent would be all over the place and it isn't. ages range from 16 to 18. These largely mirror the ages at which people may marry. They also largely track the age of the majority. In the US it has bounced from 18 and 21 over the years - currently at 18.
Interestingly enough feminists tend to be the most vocal opponents of this issue. It tracks their opposition of the word "rape" which rarely appears in statute today. They regarded "rape" as a property crime not a crime against the person. So too with the age of consent do they often reject the legal paternalism behind protecting girls from predatory men.... the argument invokes what they consider the outdated notion that a daughter who had been active does not make good marrying material and is therefore a burden on him.
Unbelievable. Tests to determine if they are ready? Bloody liberals. If a young girl wants to have sex, she should bloody well be allowed to have sex. It is no one else's bloody business what she wants.
And when this young girl is left heart broken and pregnant who's business is it then? I have had more than enough experience with old guys that refuse to grow up. One of my daughters friends had a dad that liked girls his daughters age. He always had pot and booze for the under aged girls. Well the bastard ended up blowing his own damn brains out all over my daughter. I am very thankful by daughter did not get pregnant. He was out on bond over my daughter when she ran away and went to see him. That was years ago and she still has emotional problems thanks to that old pervert.
And when this young girl is left heart broken and pregnant who's business is it then? I have had more than enough experience with old guys that refuse to grow up. One of my daughters friends had a dad that liked girls his daughters age. He always had pot and booze for the under aged girls. Well the bastard ended up blowing his own damn brains out all over my daughter. I am very thankful by daughter did not get pregnant. He was out on bond over my daughter when she ran away and went to see him. That was years ago and she still has emotional problems thanks to that old pervert.
She ran away to HIM, so it is all his fault?????????? You see people? Liberals are morons. Everything is everyone else's fault. You claim she has emotional problems. why would your daughter seek to visit someone who would end up giving her emotional problems? There has to be a reason why she ran to him. Did he have a knife to her throat, and force her to run to him???? Bloody liberals.
I am no liberal. Nor am I a flaming troll. I am right of Dick Cheney When someone gets a child hooked on drugs they don't need a knife.
What bad thing happened to make you just want to be a hateful trouble maker? It is obvious you are not here to make friends and share opinions. Hateful insults are all you seem to have to offer. But since I have no respect for you or what you are trying to do you are just an annoyance to the rest of us. Why not settle down and be be a real member here. You might find we are not so scary that you feel you have to attack everything we post. It is plain to see how miserable you are by your posts.
I stated my opinion, and you view it as an 'hateful trouble-making'? Perhaps, if I would agree with everything that the rest of you have to say, I could be accepted? Not going to happen.
13 years of age seems a little bit low for me. Sometimes I feel 16 even would be. This is because they have not fully matured enough to handle sexual encounters and also the fact that they are and will be getting emotionally attached in many circumstances. A lot of guys that "want" to have sex with underage girls are generally not thinking about the girls emotional side of things at that young age. As stated before, certain states do have age gaps. I'm from Florida. I know you have the age gap of 16-23 here with parent consent. In other words, a 16 year old could have sex without any legal problems as long as the parents consent to it.
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