New Mexico Teen Kills family Planned on shooting others.

[chris7375]

Now here is my problem with this. In the little news story and I will try to fond a bigger more in depth story so my apologies for how short it is. Anyway is the story says the guns were his. If this is the case why would his parents allow him to keep them himself. I would never in a million years allow my children to keep their own guns or even allow them access to their own gun unless I was present.

The Guns would never be allowed to be loaded in the house. I am not sure though if they were actually his guns. Even if that is not the case against the parents failure to properly secure the weapons from the boy.

http://news.yahoo.com/authorities-nm-teen-planned-shootings-store-175458936.html

 

[tecoyah]

They seem to have been his parents guns:
"
The teen allegedly told the detective that he took a .22-caliber rifle from his parents' closet around midnight Saturday and shot his mother in the head while his younger brother slept next to her.
Griego told the detective that his brother woke up but did not believe him that their mother was dead, so he showed his mother's bloody face to his brother and then shot him, according to the statement.
The teen is accused of then shooting his two young sisters after they began crying in their room, and retrieving a military-style semi-automatic rifle from his parents' closet and waiting in a downstairs bathroom for his father to come home. The statement said he shot his father multiple times after he passed the bathroom doorway."
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/nm-teen-accused-killings-parents-3-children


Great way to celebrate "Gun Appreciation Day"....I'm sure his family would be proud.

 

[chris7375]

They seem to have been his parents guns:
"
The teen allegedly told the detective that he took a .22-caliber rifle from his parents' closet around midnight Saturday and shot his mother in the head while his younger brother slept next to her.
Griego told the detective that his brother woke up but did not believe him that their mother was dead, so he showed his mother's bloody face to his brother and then shot him, according to the statement.
The teen is accused of then shooting his two young sisters after they began crying in their room, and retrieving a military-style semi-automatic rifle from his parents' closet and waiting in a downstairs bathroom for his father to come home. The statement said he shot his father multiple times after he passed the bathroom doorway."
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/nm-teen-accused-killings-parents-3-children


Great way to celebrate "Gun Appreciation Day"....I'm sure his family would be proud.

Agreed I am saddened by the action he took. Though in a way it was his parents fault for again not securing the gun so he could not obtain it.

 

[Cerise]

Agreed I am saddened by the action he took. Though in a way it was his parents fault for again not securing the gun so he could not obtain it.

Secure guns...mmmmmmmmm.

 

[chris7375]

Secure guns...mmmmmmmmm.

I found a better story and from what I learned it was unsecured in the top of the parents closet loaded. Again putting the gun where kids know where it is and can obtain it with ease is a stupid thing to do.

 

[Cerise]

Jesus said something like " Those who live by the sword will perish by it" or words to that effect if my memory serves me.
Today we could translate that as " Those who keep a gun run the risk of someone else finding it and using it"


It's surely not a case of having hidden it in an obvious to find place, or an insecure place nor yet the fact that it was loaded. ( for what is the point of having a hidden gun in one place and the ammunition hidden in another if the sole purpose of having the gun in the immediate reaction in the first place is to kill intruders) Its the fact that it was there.

 

[chris7375]

Jesus said something like " Those who live by the sword will perish by it" or words to that effect if my memory serves me.
Today we could translate that as " Those who keep a gun run the risk of someone else finding it and using it"


It's surely not a case of having hidden it in an obvious to find place, or an insecure place nor yet the fact that it was loaded. ( for what is the point of having a hidden gun in one place and the ammunition hidden in another if the sole purpose of having the gun in the immediate reaction in the first place is to kill intruders) Its the fact that it was there.

Yet there are plenty of ways to hide a gun and still make it accessible whether an intruder breaks in or not. Plenty of stories of people getting their after the intruder has broken and the victims gun was secured and locked up.

 

[a777pilot]

Once again, this is not, repeat, NOT a story about guns or gun control. It is a story of mental illness gone unchecked.

Do try to focus on what is the root cause and what is important in this sad story.

 

[chris7375]

Once again, this is not, repeat, NOT a story about guns or gun control. It is a story of mental illness gone unchecked.

Do try to focus on what is the root cause and what is important in this sad story.

I agree though I am against gun control my point is that the parents left the gun out where the kids had access to the gun.

I agree that the kid had something mentally wrong with him. Though you are never going to be able to know when someone is going to pop their cork so to speak.

So the kid may not have shown any signs of mental instability. I mean being truthful when I was a teen I thought about taking my own life. Did I no do I think that now no. Does that make me unstable? I own guns now and I am not in the greatest of situations but I deal with it.

Teens go through many different changes and guns should never be accessible to them.