Martin Luther King

[omej]

I thought Dr. Kings birthday would be a fitting day to talk about Martin Luther King Jr.

How strange is it that our first African American President will be inaugurated just a day after Dr. Kings birthday?

Say what you will about Obama, Martin Luther King was a great man. He was an American Gandhi.

 

[GunnedDown]

Well that's not very strange, probably a coincidence.

But I totally agree.. He's everything and had all the characteristics of Gandhi (I think you spelled his name wrong, unless your talking about someone else), he just wasn't brown. Well I don't think I know much about MLKJ, but I'm pretty sure he was like Gandhi, fasting, using many different ways of peaceful protesting, and yeah..

And the fact that both of them got assassinated, just too much of a coincidence don't you think?

 

[omej]

Well that's not very strange, probably a coincidence.

But I totally agree.. He's everything and had all the characteristics of Gandhi (I think you spelled his name wrong, unless your talking about someone else), he just wasn't brown. Well I don't think I know much about MLKJ, but I'm pretty sure he was like Gandhi, fasting, using many different ways of peaceful protesting, and yeah..

And the fact that both of them got assassinated, just too much of a coincidence don't you think?

Thanks for the correction, fixed. Yeah its a tragedy that all of our peaceful activists always meet such brutal ends.

 

[Creativeelement]

yeah, it is sad how people kill all the good people who are trying to create peace and trying to help the better good. I think the whole Obama getting elected after MLK's birthday is a conspiracy, just joking. I think that it is kinda cool.

 

[Akuma]

It is indeed a shame that such peaceful activists have died. However their death caused some people to reflect, so in a way it did have some sort of positive outcome.

It also seems that the violent war mongers are the ones who live long lives, while the peaceful protester often rarely sees progress while they still have life.

 

[porsteamboy]

I agree MLK was agreat man, he was the chosen leader of the blacks to lead in the civil rights movement through non violence. However the U.S. Government saw this movement as a Communist plot. From 1962 to his assassination the FBI ( with the authorization of Attorney General Robert Kennedy ) conducted phone taps of MLK home. The FBI continued efforts to descredit King under a program called COINTELPRO Through mass media distributed propaganda concerning his supposed "communist influences", his extra marital sexual activities and triggering a spate of harassment from the IRS. In 1964 it was annouced that MLK would receive a Noble Peace Prize, the FBI dramatically increased it's efforts to neutralize him. When MLK Decided to talk against the Vietnam war and gave his Beyond Vietnam Speech , one year later to the date, he was assassinated. Thats what the U.S. Government thought of MLK.

 

[McSwift]

I agree MLK was agreat man, he was the chosen leader of the blacks to lead in the civil rights movement through non violence. However the U.S. Government saw this movement as a Communist plot. From 1962 to his assassination the FBI ( with the authorization of Attorney General Robert Kennedy ) conducted phone taps of MLK home. The FBI continued efforts to descredit King under a program called COINTELPRO Through mass media distributed propaganda concerning his supposed "communist influences", his extra marital sexual activities and triggering a spate of harassment from the IRS. In 1964 it was annouced that MLK would receive a Noble Peace Prize, the FBI dramatically increased it's efforts to neutralize him. When MLK Decided to talk against the Vietnam war and gave his Beyond Vietnam Speech , one year later to the date, he was assassinated. Thats what the U.S. Government thought of MLK.

Wow, I can't believe you seriously think that the U.S. government is behind the assassination. How is Martin Luther King even tied to the communists. What proof do you have of all of this? I can answer that, none, otherwise this would've been everywhere once it was confirmed.

 

[repblue]

I agree MLK was agreat man, he was the chosen leader of the blacks to lead in the civil rights movement through non violence. However the U.S. Government saw this movement as a Communist plot. From 1962 to his assassination the FBI ( with the authorization of Attorney General Robert Kennedy ) conducted phone taps of MLK home. The FBI continued efforts to descredit King under a program called COINTELPRO Through mass media distributed propaganda concerning his supposed "communist influences", his extra marital sexual activities and triggering a spate of harassment from the IRS. In 1964 it was annouced that MLK would receive a Noble Peace Prize, the FBI dramatically increased it's efforts to neutralize him. When MLK Decided to talk against the Vietnam war and gave his Beyond Vietnam Speech , one year later to the date, he was assassinated. Thats what the U.S. Government thought of MLK.

Don't confuse the government with a select few. J. Edgar Hoover was a racist and bigoted fool, whose grave I would spit on. But that's hardly what the entire "government" thought of MLK.

 

[porsteamboy]

Wow, I can't believe you seriously think that the U.S. government is behind the assassination. How is Martin Luther King even tied to the communists. What proof do you have of all of this? I can answer that, none, otherwise this would've been everywhere once it was confirmed.

Google COINTELPRO and read for yourself, also read MLK speech Beyond Vietnam

 

[porsteamboy]

Don't confuse the government with a select few. J. Edgar Hoover was a racist and bigoted fool, whose grave I would spit on. But that's hardly what the entire "government" thought of MLK.

The Supreme court in the Plessy Vs. Ferguson case ( 1890 ) resulted in a "Seperate-but-Equal" decision and had wide consequences for civil rights in the U.S. With the court refusing to strike down segregation as unconstitutional, this offically institutionalized segregation. MLK was fighting for Civil Rights for the blacks against the U.S. Government who stated that blacks were equal but seperate, so yes it was the U.S. Government and J. Edgar Hoover worked for Robert Kennedy. If it wasn't for MLK non-violent demonstrations and the news coverage of those events they would still be Seperate-but -Equal. This is what the Government said about MLK "Is the most dangerous man in the U.S."

 

[porsteamboy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbMsOGWN_ts&feature=related here is a short film on COINTELPRO

 

[repblue]

The Supreme court in the Plessy Vs. Ferguson case ( 1890 ) resulted in a "Seperate-but-Equal" decision and had wide consequences for civil rights in the U.S. With the court refusing to strike down segregation as unconstitutional, this offically institutionalized segregation. MLK was fighting for Civil Rights for the blacks against the U.S. Government who stated that blacks were equal but seperate, so yes it was the U.S. Government and J. Edgar Hoover worked for Robert Kennedy. If it wasn't for MLK non-violent demonstrations and the news coverage of those events they would still be Seperate-but -Equal. This is what the Government said about MLK "Is the most dangerous man in the U.S."

Let's take a look at some of the laws closer to the lifetime of Martin Luther King. You can't honestly expect to bring Reconstruction Era decisions without even considering more recent precedents.

Brown v Board of Ed (struck down your vaunted Plessy V Ferguson)
Alexander v Holmes
15th Amendment to the constitution

These just to name a few.

Calling Robert Kennedy racist and anti-civil rights is the most rediculous thing I have ever heard. On numerous times, he sent federal law enforcement to protect civil rights laws. Have you ever heard of James Meredith? It was a smaller version of the Little Rock incident, except that it was Kennedy who sent the Marshals. Kennedy spoke out against apartheid. Go read the "on the mindless menace of violence" speech, you might learn something.

You are a master at revisionist history, as it is obvious from your cherry picked arguments.

 

[Mr.Conservative]

Martin Luther King was a great man but it does annoy me when people try to compare others to him. People like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton who attempt to capitalize on every opportunity rather than fight for justice across the board.

 

[porsteamboy]

Let's take a look at some of the laws closer to the lifetime of Martin Luther King. You can't honestly expect to bring Reconstruction Era decisions without even considering more recent precedents.

Brown v Board of Ed (struck down your vaunted Plessy V Ferguson)
Alexander v Holmes
15th Amendment to the constitution

These just to name a few.

Calling Robert Kennedy racist and anti-civil rights is the most rediculous thing I have ever heard. On numerous times, he sent federal law enforcement to protect civil rights laws. Have you ever heard of James Meredith? It was a smaller version of the Little Rock incident, except that it was Kennedy who sent the Marshals. Kennedy spoke out against apartheid. Go read the "on the mindless menace of violence" speech, you might learn something.

You are a master at revisionist history, as it is obvious from your cherry picked arguments.

Brown v Board of Education did not strike down Plessy v Ferguson, only in regaurds to public education. Chief Justice Earl Warren "We conclude that in the Field of public education the doctrine of "seperate but Equal has no place." This was in 1954 and "Seperate but Equal" continued in other areas as public accomodations, private schools, housing, employment, government contracts, college admissions and so on. So Plessy v Ferguson was alive and well, except for public education. It took another 15 years before schools where fully integrated in Alexander v holmes. Inbetween was Brown II were the court said pubic schools will be integrated "In all deliberate speed" 14 years later Alexaner v Holmes changed "In all deliberate speed" to "Imediately". What do you think the Civil/equal rights movement was about! I didn' say Robert Kennedy was a racist and anti-civil rights, I said he aprroved phone taping of MLK home. I Know who James Meridith was, I was alive when it happen! Robert Kennedy sent in U.S. Marshals because he was Attorney General and the Supereme court in Brown said "Seperate but equal" had no place in public education, it was the law, thats why. RFk didn't balk at approving the appointment of William Harold Cox, an out spoken racist, as Federal District Judge in Mississippi. The Kennedy Administration provided only reluctant support for Civil Rights, at least until 1963 when Civil Rights groups put pressure on them. I've read, on the mindless menance of violence and I didn't learn anything I didn't already know, I didn't need RFK to tell me, this from a man who was trying to Kill Castro.

 

[pingpong12]

I thought Dr. Kings birthday would be a fitting day to talk about Martin Luther King Jr.

How strange is it that our first African American President will be inaugurated just a day after Dr. Kings birthday?

Say what you will about Obama, Martin Luther King was a great man. He was an American Gandhi.

Funny how you are comparing him to Gandhi as MLK got most of his protesting methods from Gandhi himself

 

[alexmike]

I would have to agree that Martin Luther is without a doubt of of the most inspirational men of the America. he will continue to inspire us to stand up for what is right.