which is worse?

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I decided to create this thread to highlight the inherent hypocrisy of the left. so emotionally driven they move like zombies to the next story that will excite their insatiable hunger.
 
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which is worse...


1) Obama opening back-channels with Iran (our enemy and largest funder of terrorism) and eventually giving them pallets of money in the dead of night.


2) Kushner allowing a back channel with Russia (a country that could be an ally against terrorism).

:rolleyes:
 
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which is worse?


1) Lois Lerner's IRS targeting conservative groups, denying tax exempt status based on partisan politics (illegal). Later she resigned and took the 5th.

2)Michael Flynn decorated military general talked to Russia reps (not illegal). Later he went on to resign because he failed to tell the VP (not illegal) and took the 5th.

:smug:
 
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which is worse...


1) Obama opening back-channels with Iran (our enemy and largest funder of terrorism) and eventually giving them pallets of money in the dead of night.


2) Kushner allowing a back channel with Russia (a country that could be an ally against terrorism).

:rolleyes:

Obama very publicly and alongside Russian and EU diplomats negotiated a deal with Iran regarding its nuclear weapons program which, once finalized, saw the phasing out of sanctions (dependent on Iran playing along). The 1st round of sanction relief included the return of $150B of IRANIAN money that the DoT had seized. Subsequent failures by Iran to uphold its obligations saw an end to further sanction relief.

Kushner, to the utter shock of the Russians so bizarre it was, asked that the Russians, using their own equipment and personnel, establish a communications network for the incoming Trump Administration (thus giving the Russians direct access to the going ons in the WH). The explicit reason for this being to avoid US intelligence agencies from knowing what Trump was up to. Several weeks later, after the Russians (who had said **** no to such an idiotic deal) let slip what had happened, the Trump Administration, without any proof, started going on about Obama spying on them (never mind his having no reason to do so).

These are not the same thing. At. ****ing. All.
 
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which is worse?


1) Lois Lerner's IRS targeting conservative groups, denying tax exempt status based on partisan politics (illegal). Later she resigned and took the 5th.

2)Michael Flynn decorated military general talked to Russia reps (not illegal). Later he went on to resign because he failed to tell the VP (not illegal) and took the 5th.

:smug:

A bipartisan investigation by Congress found that leftist groups were targeted equally. The IRS apologized anyway and reformed how it tracked political fundraising.

Flynn was a paid Russian agent (in this context, agent = lobbyist) and had, in violation of anti-corruption laws, failed to declare himself a foreign agent upon being hired by the Trump Administration.

These are not the same thing. At. ****ing. All.
 
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You really do need to try harder. I'm not even having to think when shooting these down.
 
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A bipartisan investigation by Congress found that leftist groups were targeted equally. The IRS apologized anyway and reformed how it tracked political fundraising.

Flynn was a paid Russian agent (in this context, agent = lobbyist) and had, in violation of anti-corruption laws, failed to declare himself a foreign agent upon being hired by the Trump Administration.

These are not the same thing. At. ****ing. All.



Looks like with a better president, we may get to the bottom of the IRS scandal after all. :smug:

Lois Lerner got off easy in the IRS scandal. It's time to reexamine the targeting of conservatives | Fox News
 
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your arguments are really based on the premise that simply saying the opposite of truth constitutes creative thought. it does not.

once one accepts that, the shock value of what is being said just naturally diminishes.

- islam is wholly good and misunderstood
- white Christians are the real terrorists
- people should not work for their money, it should be doled out to them
- Trump is a Russian spy
- Obama was a conservative
- American revolutionists were ner'dowells not heroes
- etc.
 
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Obama very publicly and alongside Russian and EU diplomats negotiated a deal with Iran regarding its nuclear weapons program which, once finalized, saw the phasing out of sanctions (dependent on Iran playing along). The 1st round of sanction relief included the return of $150B of IRANIAN money that the DoT had seized. Subsequent failures by Iran to uphold its obligations saw an end to further sanction relief.

Kushner, to the utter shock of the Russians so bizarre it was, asked that the Russians, using their own equipment and personnel, establish a communications network for the incoming Trump Administration (thus giving the Russians direct access to the going ons in the WH). The explicit reason for this being to avoid US intelligence agencies from knowing what Trump was up to. Several weeks later, after the Russians (who had said **** no to such an idiotic deal) let slip what had happened, the Trump Administration, without any proof, started going on about Obama spying on them (never mind his having no reason to do so).

These are not the same thing. At. ****ing. All.

Fact: Obama gave 150B to a country that will most assuredly use that money to fund terror against us and our allies.

Everything you say about Kushner here is hearsay even though you state it as fact. you claim to know what was done and intent behind it and what the Russians were thinking. its kind of your way. its ok if you think it or heard it on a liberal anti-trump website, but its not fact.

I didn't say they were the same. in fact its my opinion that Obama creating back-channels to give money to Iran was way worse. way ****ing worse, as you might say.
 
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Why don't you stop with the ' No U!'s and offer cold hard facts that disprove anything I said?

I"ll wait though I certainly won't hold my breath. I want to live.
 
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Why don't you stop with the ' No U!'s and offer cold hard facts that disprove anything I said?

I"ll wait though I certainly won't hold my breath. I want to live.


I cant disprove your fantasy and opinions. the problem is you start with scant unknowns and build up fantastic stories around them. offer some facts and I'll agree or disprove.

For example:
I agree with the fact that Obama gave pallets of money (150B) to Iran at night.

You believe this was good because it was money we owed them.

I do not believe we owe them squat, because of the terror they sponsor, lives they've cost and oppression they've inflicted.
 
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