Pledge of No Allegiance

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“I pledge no allegiance to any piece of cloth, or to any political organization for which it stands, nor will I accept the claim that any country is indivisible, because I understand that the purpose of government is to infringe on the liberty and justice for all.”



Is it un-patriotic to refuse to pledge allegiance to the flag? Yes.


Is it un-American to refuse to pledge allegiance to the flag? No.


Why do I refuse to pledge?


It is my assertion that being blindly patriotic is un-American. Taking any “pledge of allegiance” goes against the principles of freedom that the United States of America were founded upon.



The very first line “I pledge allegiance to the flag...” makes the promise that the pledger agrees to be a “liege”. A liege is a slave. Therefore pledging allegiance to anything or anybody goes against the principles of freedom.



A flag is an inanimate piece of cloth, a symbol of power and coercion. It cannot make decisions. It cannot give orders. Being a slave to a piece of cloth is such a silly notion that only constant brainwashing repetition can make it seem reasonable.



The phrase “... the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible...” is abhorrent to the original founding principles of America, because people should be free to separate or secede from any organization that they choose to leave. This phrase was written as an excuse for the northern states to force southern and western states to remain part of the union against their will. Its purpose is to enslave everybody by denying the right to secede.


The phrase “... under God...” was added during the Cold War as a claim that God is directing American foreign policy. This claim should be as abhorrent to believers in God as it is to non-believers. What sort of God would use military force to prop up some dictators while overthrowing others? What sort of God would bribe foreign leaders to do our bidding? What sort of God would condone the lying, stealing, killing and corruption that US foreign policy is based upon? This view of God makes him seem so weak that he has to rely on a huge military machine, with troops based all over the world, in order to force his will on the people of the earth. That certainly goes against the biblical vision of God controlling the universe.


The phrase “... with liberty and justice for all” is the final insult to the intelligence of the pledgers. How could one be expected to pledge to be a liege if there were liberty and justice for all? Being a slave to liberty is a ridiculous oxymoron.


Each person is either a slave or a free person. The “Pledge of Allegiance” was just one step in reducing the free people of America to serfdom.



As history has shown, and current events continue to prove, there is no "liberty and justice for all" under any form of government. There is liberty (special privilege) for certain lieges, and a perversion of justice that sometimes appears to work. But in reality the purpose of the nation-state is to protect the liege masters (privileged class) while ruling the lieges.


Does it seem bizarre that we are asked to pledge to be lieges as a way to safeguard our freedom?


So, I ask you to join with me in reciting the “Pledge of No Allegiance” whenever the myrmidons around you are reciting the un-American, but patriotic, “Pledge of Allegiance”. I also ask that you take those opportunities to educate those who mistakenly believe that reciting the “Pledge of Allegiance” and other patriotic gobbledygook are supporting American liberty and justice.


This has been an Antidote to Brainwashing.
 
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I recommend you seek a country that you actually like, or make one of your own and move there. Obviously this country is not exactly what you desire and although it is likely none are, at the very least the rest of us who actually understand the need for compromise in that thingy we call "Life" would no longer be subjected to the whining.
 
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I recommend you seek a country that you actually like, or make one of your own and move there. Obviously this country is not exactly what you desire and although it is likely none are, at the very least the rest of us who actually understand the need for compromise in that thingy we call "Life" would no longer be subjected to the whining.

Not whining. Educating.

And you are right that every spare inch of this planet and the entire solar system has already been claimed by arbitrary governments. So, if one were to find a free country, it would undoubtably be overrun immediately by the coalition of the willing (bribed, and coerced).

So, it seems sane to refuse to be a liege to such a system.
 
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Not whining. Educating.

And you are right that every spare inch of this planet and the entire solar system has already been claimed by arbitrary governments. So, if one were to find a free country, it would undoubtably be overrun immediately by the coalition of the willing (bribed, and coerced).

So, it seems sane to refuse to be a liege to such a system.

Your attempts at "Education" are about as likely to have effect as a Priest attempting to convert an Atheist. The Atheist understands how silly the Priest is in belief and does not wish to live his life in an imagined reality and thus will not deny what he already knows. The Priest will continue to espouse deeply held beliefs regardless and fail to convince.
 
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Your attempts at "Education" are about as likely to have effect as a Priest attempting to convert an Atheist. The Atheist understands how silly the Priest is in belief and does not wish to live his life in an imagined reality and thus will not deny what he already knows. The Priest will continue to espouse deeply held beliefs regardless and fail to convince.

Ah, you are sadly mostly right.

However, in this case it is me being the political atheist, challenging the beliefs of the Cult of the Omnipotent State, while those resisting the truth are the faithful followers of its political priests.
 
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Ah, you are sadly mostly right.

However, in this case it is me being the political atheist, challenging the beliefs of the Cult of the Omnipotent State, while those resisting the truth are the faithful followers of its political priests.


Thus do we see the futility and ignorance of your position. Any challenge with a chance of success requires a basic understanding of reality based truths.
 
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The pledge speaks to an ideal of our country. Sure it is not always fulfilled that's why it is an ideal. It's something to aspire to. This country was founded on high ideals and that's a good thing. If you aim for the stars you may one day get there. if you sulk in the gutter, that is where you will likely remain.
 
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The pledge speaks to an ideal of our country. Sure it is not always fulfilled that's why it is an ideal. It's something to aspire to. This country was founded on high ideals and that's a good thing. If you aim for the stars you may one day get there. if you sulk in the gutter, that is where you will likely remain.

The "ideal" of this country was supposed to be "freedom".

How does pledging alliegance speak to that ideal. Pledging allegiance, to anybody or anything, is pledging to be its liege. That is the opposite of freedom. It is Orwellian NewSpeak to say "Freedom is Slavery".

Your "aim for the stars" comment reminds me of a kegger campout by Bear Creek when I was a young man. In the middle of the night we were all awakened from our drunken slumber by gunfire. It was Bubba-Joe trying to shoot down the full moon. He must have wasted 50 bullets before somebody conviced him he was too drunk to shoot straight. Convincing him the moon was too far away was impossible.
 
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The "ideal" of this country was supposed to be "freedom".

How does pledging alliegance speak to that ideal. Pledging allegiance, to anybody or anything, is pledging to be its liege. That is the opposite of freedom. It is Orwellian NewSpeak to say "Freedom is Slavery".

Your "aim for the stars" comment reminds me of a kegger campout by Bear Creek when I was a young man. In the middle of the night we were all awakened from our drunken slumber by gunfire. It was Bubba-Joe trying to shoot down the full moon. He must have wasted 50 bullets before somebody conviced him he was too drunk to shoot straight. Convincing him the moon was too far away was impossible.

We all pledge our liege to something whether we admit it or not. So if I must pledge my liege to something....then freedom is as good an ideal as any for me.
 
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Originally Posted by David
Anarchists are an odd bunch.

Hmmmm. Seems that it is archists that bunch up. Their logic seems odd to me. But then, maybe that's why they feel they have to use force all the time.

"You know, if government were a product, selling it would be illegal. Government is a health hazard. Governments have killed many more people than cigarettes or unbuckled seat belts ever have." P.J. O'Rourke

And archists create more terror every single day than the acts of all anarchists combined since the beginning of time.
 
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