9/11

I have really hard to believe that the American government was behind the 9/11. But I can say, after see a video like this (http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=9+11+conspiracies+part+1&emb=0&aq=2&oq=9/11+conspiracies#) I starting to think that someone must behind the attack (not Usama Bin laden).

I am still not sure what I think to the 9/11 theory, it keeps changing all the time so it makes it hard for you to have your own oppinions about it, all I know is it was a horrible time for the people there and who lost their loved ones

lol @ usama bin laden

Anyways, I don't think any of those conspiracies can even hold true, since there's almost 0% chance that anyone can prove them. And there will be no internal war, since Bush will be leaving the white house in a really short amount of time.. people will just kill him, and there will be no war involved

As for whoever makes the conspiracies, probably those lifeless attention-seeking nubs

Who will investigate when the government is the one who did all that? I do not say that the conspiracies are true but they can be. If it'll proved, other nations will loose all the trust in US and this can create problems. It will present US as a selfish nation.

I have heard a lot about this topic in school. A lot of people think that Jewish Americans were behind it as a lot of them didn't show up for work on the day of the attacks.

Creativeelement said:

I have heard a lot about this topic in school. A lot of people think that Jewish Americans were behind it as a lot of them didn't show up for work on the day of the attacks.

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LOL WHAT? Jewish Americans?!
I never even heard of that theory.. out of anyone you could've just mentioned, you say Jewish Americans? How could they possibly have been behind the attacks? Do you have proof that a lot of them didn't show up to work that day? And if you do, they're not real proof, 'cause that's not possible . And I don't think many schools (if at all) would let staff members or students talk about bogus conspiracy theories of 9/11 and mention Jewish Americans... lol (sorry to be so mean , it's just funny lol)

Do you guys know that an Indian painter depicted and painted the crash of WTC much before it happened? I’m sorry that I don’t remember the painter’s name.

aqua said:

Do you guys know that an Indian painter depicted and painted the crash of WTC much before it happened? I?m sorry that I don?t remember the painter?s name.

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Oh, that sounds interesting. Can you please pot some effort to find his name? Would love to read more about him.

Well if anything interesting happens the conspiracy theories always follow and the same case may be here as well.i have seen so many documentaries related to 9/11 like zeitgeist and fahrnht 9/11 and after watching them i truly feel that the theories might be real, the biggest theory is that the attack might be planned by the us govt itself,there is so much proof provided in these documentaries that you really cannot deny them and now to talk about the painter for which you guyz are talking about.the painter was not Indian but he did predicted that it will happen,he also predicted the conflict between western countries and the gulf countries,unfortunately i don't remember his name.

There are a ton of 9/11 conspiracy theories out there, but they are all just fantasies for the most part. There just isn't any evidence of an internal plot.

It also isn't a common idea. It just seems common because the believers usually spew their ideas over the Internet. If one isn't connected to the pulse of the Internet, the Truth Movement goes away.

I've seen just about everything that the Truth Movement has to offer over the past 2 years at the James Randi Educational Forum. I haven't seen one good argument that made me even think twice about it.

Most of the theories are just anti-Semitic or paranoid fantasies. They just survive by throwing out "fact" after "fact" in the hopes of overwhelming the viewer.

There is actually a great article by Cracked.com covering the ridiculous assumptions behind most of the theories. If anyone is really interested in a good laugh, then I could dig it up and link to it.

Baah! It was Nostradamus who had prophesied about the attacks, but then Nostradamus' theories are so vaguely worded, you can twist them to point to any natural calamity, mishap and war on earth!

I do believe in these conspiracy theories. Pentagon is the most protected structure on Earth. How, just how on earth is it possible to fly a plane towards the pentagon without internal help?

Nostradamus wasn't really even that close. The rumor that he predicted it was entrenched due to a fake prophesy that was spread via email. The real one is very vague and scholars think he was talking about Florence (I believe that was the city).

As to how they hit the Pentagon...well...they point an airplane at it and descended downward. There really wasn't a protocol for shooting down incoming planes. Even if there was, they might not have done so for fear of the fallout causing worse damage.

Mythbusters pretty much showed that any idiot with basic training can make a crash landing. It was just a matter of looking the place up on a map. The Pentagon is also very recognizable, so it would have been easy to see from the sky.

If Intelligence was a a failure of unprecedented magnitude ( Joint Congressional Hearings words, not mine ) before 911 and after 911 the intelligence for going to war with Iraq was flawed ( Dubya's words not mine ) why should we believe any of the intelligence connected with the attack.

The failings of the intelligence community just means that we remain skeptical of the basic information. They really didn't present anything that was too outlandish. I assure you that hundreds of thousands of engineers probably read the reports when they came out. There was a lot of interest in it.

The Parakeet said:

The failings of the intelligence community just means that we remain skeptical of the basic information. They really didn't present anything that was too outlandish. I assure you that hundreds of thousands of engineers probably read the reports when they came out. There was a lot of interest in it.

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Forget about the firefighters who heard explosions at the bottom of the towers. This is a figment of their imagination. Whoever thinks that our government doesnt have our interest first is crazy.

::Cough:: Gulf of tonkin ::Sneeze:: iraq war ::achoooooooo::: nowmdsoralquaeda::: ahhhh. Had something thick stuck in my throat.

As parakeet would have us believe ,everything is honkey dorey and we should all wear rose pettled sun glasses to protect us from the brite beam of light (told us the vietnamese fired on us but in reality it was proven again to be a cia staged attack)

Hey guys, im gonna just stick my head in the ground and follow state sponsored news.

Dang it! I asked you to start posting about the Federal Reserve. Now I have to start a 9/11 truther card for you too. This is getting to be a pain.

Side note to Everyone - A hilarious article that basically sums up my feelings on 9/11 truth. It's from cracked.com. They're a little offensive, but funny. There's a somewhat realistic analysis of their problems on the first page, but it isn't as funny, so I'm linking to the second. http://www.cracked.com/article_15740_p2.html

Quotes from these firefighters. Quotes or didn't happen. Basic skeptic rule.

Two, explosions would have knocked out the windows in nearby buildings.

Two and a half - There would have been a seismic charge

Two and 2/3 - The collapse looks just like the physics say it should.

Three, a controlled demolition would have been ridiculously hard to pull off.

Four, only a few engineers out of the million or so out there agree with you. Are they all government shills.

Five - Please phrase your statements better. I didn't say anything about Gulf of Tolkien here (or anywhere actual). It's been too long since I read about it, but it wasn't a CIA staged attack. It was a scared group of sailors who thought they saw a ship through the fog. The Nixon administration did choose to falsify the story as proof of Vietnamese aggression though, which was a lie.

And as we know, if they lied to us once, they obviously lied every single other time in the history of the world. It's impossible for an individual to actually read a report and understand the agreements made for an against it.

I seriously haven't seen a controlled demolition theory for 9/11 in awhile. Most of the truthers abandoned it after it had been throughly destroyed by an skeptic with half a brain. My examples are just the ones I have off the top of my head.

Any other defense besides calling me an idiot?

Oh...and one quick note about the firefighters hearing the explosions. I found the rebuttal that shows the full quotes in context. I'll link to it at the bottom if you want to read the whole thing. The gist of it is that the quoted men admitted in the next few sentences of their interviews that the loud noise wasn't a bomb blast but the collapse. They knew that and were merely trying to explain what thoughts ran through their minds when it happened.

http://www.911myths.com/html/quote_abuse.html

The Parakeet said:

The failings of the intelligence community just means that we remain skeptical of the basic information. They really didn't present anything that was too outlandish. I assure you that hundreds of thousands of engineers probably read the reports when they came out. There was a lot of interest in it.

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I wasn' talking about the physical destruction of the attack.