I knew if I brought this thread from the grave somebody would come out of the wood work :\
They said that there was sulfur in the metal of the WTCs...and they said that there was thermite on the buildings...and theres no way the WTCs could have come down without a structured demolition....
People who say that buildings don't come down unless they are controlled demolitions do not have any idea how buildings work. The thermite argument has no ground. I'm guess you're also one of those who believes the "meteorites" is a solid hunk of steel.
which is exactly what it looked like! It was an implosion!!
Controlled implosions that I know of don't take with them, every building on the lot. The buildings were hit by jet liners, the impacts removed the fireproofing, some of which was very fragile gypsum wallboard, they completely obliterated the built in active fire suppression systems, and the fuel flash ignited several floors at once, 80 floors above ground. That is by defacto standard the WORST scenario a firefighter can EVER be faced with.
Unprotected steel under high loads will undergo something called creep; it's a plastic deformation of the steel, which if uncontrolled will result in instability, and the loss of strength. What it looks like to you is irrelevant, what happened is.
And then in Madrid, a building burned for 20 hours straight without falling down....yet the WTCs fell down within 45 minutes?
The Windsor tower was a reinforced concrete structure built nothing like the towers. The fact that the architects and engineers for 911 truth can't distinguish that alone tells me how incompetent they are. Also the part of that building which was steel DID collapse in its entirety.
And please, don't bother with bringing up the Empire State Building. That is also a masonry structure, and the steel frame system is also completely different from the towers.
That's brings another point that you're inevitably going to bring up; when you come at me with "this was the first time in history" consider that A) you're suggesting the 1st times never happen; a paradox. And B) most steel structures don't have their built-to-code systems completely compromised by something that cannot be entirely accounted for.
AND people were able to get out? It obviously wasn't that hot
Tell that to the 200 or so people who made the decision to jump rather than burn. Theys had no way out because the planes severed the stairwells and elevators, The one exception was the south tower where the plane missed one of them and it remained passable for a time.
....and then a 150+ ft Boeing 757 went through a 16 foot whole in the pentagon??
The hole was closer to 70 feet. Obviously nobody in this thread is able to explains a strawman set up by loosechange. The purpose of a straw man from the onset is to make up an argument that you can easily tear down. Sorry, Loose Change doesn't dupe everyone with their silly games.
AND there was NO trace of the plane.
None?
Far from it. Everything from the passenger DNA, to the plane parts were identified in full. Perhaps you're unfamiliar with the concept of DNA identification too?
and that doesn't explain the traces of thermite
HINT: The cladding of the trade centers were SURPRISE SURPRISE!!
Aluminum. And the structure? STEEL! Which is an alloy mostly comprised of... wait for it...
iron!
WTCs were barely even in flames
Does
this look like a small fire to you? You do realize each of those floors was 40,000 square feet of office space right?
without the wings even touching the Pentagon
Low mass aluminum wingtips versus an 18 inch thick masonry wall. Which one wins?
In case you haven't noticed, this is 2010, not 2006. I suggest before you rehash Zero, Zeitgeist, Loose Change, September Clues, or whatever, you consult a professional architect or engineer before you bring up that conspiracy material again. And do avoid AE911, they're not credible period, I'm telling YOU from experience discussing stuff with two of their prominent members. Incidentally, one of the two Bjorkman; believes that documented progressive collapses like Ronan Point are impossible.
