A Romney nomination almost assures Obama’s election.

Supposn · Jul 15, 2012

A Romney nomination almost assures Obama’s election.

Many if not most Republicans were all opposed to Massachusetts Romneycare but then Governor Romney, Republicans and Democrats passed and enacted it. Romney was the liberal governor of a liberal state. Massachusetts voters will not repeal Romneycare.

Despite Republican leaderships’ opposition and a U.S. Supreme Court challenge, Romneycare is now federal law.

It’s conceivable that a Republican could be elected president in 2012, but in my opinion that cannot occur if Romney is nominated.
Romney is a chameleon with no core convictions. He’s was more liberal when ran and served as governor. He was a proponent and the governor that signed off on and enacted Romneycare.

I expect every Obama speech will begin, end, and within its main body mention and praise Romney for the exact model of federal Romneycare. He’ll make mention of it during every debate. Romney’s candidacy would leave the Republicans appearing to be illogical fools and will make Obama’s re-election more certain.

Romney is the choice of Republican leaders. It is my opinion that Ron Paul followers in particular will prevent Romney’s nomination on the first ballot. If Romney’s fails to be nominated on the first ballot, I don’t believe the Republicans will be so foolish as to nominate him.

Romney’s nomination would almost assure Obama’s election.

Respectfully, Supposn

DodgeFB · Jul 15, 2012

Supposn said:
A Romney nomination almost assures Obama’s election.

Many if not most Republicans were all opposed to Massachusetts Romneycare but then Governor Romney, Republicans and Democrats passed and enacted it. Romney was the liberal governor of a liberal state. Massachusetts voters will not repeal Romneycare.

Despite Republican leaderships’ opposition and a U.S. Supreme Court challenge, Romneycare is now federal law.

It’s conceivable that a Republican could be elected president in 2012, but in my opinion that cannot occur if Romney is nominated.
Romney is a chameleon with no core convictions. He’s was more liberal when ran and served as governor. He was a proponent and the governor that signed off on and enacted Romneycare.

I expect every Obama speech will begin, end, and within its main body mention and praise Romney for the exact model of federal Romneycare. He’ll make mention of it during every debate. Romney’s candidacy would leave the Republicans appearing to be illogical fools and will make Obama’s re-election more certain.

Romney is the choice of Republican leaders. It is my opinion that Ron Paul followers in particular will prevent Romney’s nomination on the first ballot. If Romney’s fails to be nominated on the first ballot, I don’t believe the Republicans will be so foolish as to nominate him.

Romney’s nomination would almost assure Obama’s election.

Respectfully, Supposn

I will just say Romney will be nominated. It would be foolish to nominate someone else that Romney already beat this year. Obama should win since he has a couple of built in voting groups. They would vote for Obama no matter what he does or says. And he "uses" them like a farmer uses his plow.

clax · Jul 15, 2012

DodgeFB said:
I will just say Romney will be nominated. It would be foolish to nominate someone else that Romney already beat this year. Obama should win since he has a couple of built in voting groups. They would vote for Obama no matter what he does or says. And he "uses" them like a farmer uses his plow.

That is called core or base. They are not enough to elect him, if the were bush would have never been.

DodgeFB · Jul 15, 2012

clax said:
That is called core or base. They are not enough to elect him, if the were bush would have never been.

Don't you think it is late too start over? I would have so much to do, with so little time! I just don't think I have time to make the run!

Supposn · Jul 15, 2012

DodgeFB said:
I will just say Romney will be nominated. It would be foolish to nominate someone else that Romney already beat this year. Obama should win since he has a couple of built in voting groups. They would vote for Obama no matter what he does or says. And he "uses" them like a farmer uses his plow.

Dodge FB, Romney has succeeded to purchase Republican state primaries. Opposition within many of the states that he’s won is so great that in some cases John Paul delegates will equal or even exceed the numbers of Romney convention delegates. It’s uncharacteristic of Republicans but if Romney fails to be nominated on the first round of votes, and if the Republican leadership fails to permit an open convention, a riot could occur. The young Ron Paul proponents are not characteristic of the Republican Party.

[The Dixiecrats walked out of the Democratic 1948 Convention Party because Truman and Humphrey, the president and vice-presidential candidate that racially intergraded our armed forces had the courage to hold their ground. That’s why they were expected to lose to Dewey].

Respectfully, Supposn

myp · Jul 16, 2012

At this point Romney has the best chance to win for the GOP. There is no use in speculating on other candidates- it is too late to turn back now- Romney will represent the Republican party vs. Obama.

Supposn · Jul 16, 2012

myp said:
At this point Romney has the best chance to win for the GOP. There is no use in speculating on other candidates- it is too late to turn back now- Romney will represent the Republican party vs. Obama.

MYP, I’m much less certain that Romney will be nominated.

Unless the Green Party is on the ballot in NJ, I will not waste my time or make the effort to walk over to my district’s election poll location. In 2010 I lost patience with Obama; Democrats failed to bring the federal budget onto the floors of both houses prior to the election.
Failures are acceptable; losses due to negotiations are acceptable. Obama’s acquiescence and surrender was unacceptable. We not only stand upon the shoulders of our predecessors’ successes, but also upon their failures.

In 2010 I lost patience with Obama; Democrats failed to bring the federal budget onto the floors of both houses prior to the election. I voted only for the Green Party congressional candidate in 2010. Only prior to the 2011 elections did Obama behave like a supporter of his own political concepts. I didn’t vote in 2011.

Unless the Green Party is on the ballot in NJ, I may not waste my time or make the effort to walk over to my district’s election polling location. I expect Obama to win without my vote but that’s a matter of no consequence because Obama keeps permitting the goal posts to be moved.

Respectfully, Supposn

DodgeFB · Jul 16, 2012

Supposn said:
Dodge FB, Romney has succeeded to purchase Republican state primaries. Opposition within many of the states that he’s won is so great that in some cases John Paul delegates will equal or even exceed the numbers of Romney convention delegates. It’s uncharacteristic of Republicans but if Romney fails to be nominated on the first round of votes, and if the Republican leadership fails to permit an open convention, a riot could occur. The young Ron Paul proponents are not characteristic of the Republican Party.

[The Dixiecrats walked out of the Democratic 1948 Convention Party because Truman and Humphrey, the president and vice-presidential candidate that racially intergraded our armed forces had the courage to hold their ground. That’s why they were expected to lose to Dewey].

Respectfully, Supposn

Ron Paul's son that happens to be our senator has already got on the Romney band wagon.

Right now it is just very hard to be elected as a libertarian or some form of green party. I don't want to waste gas going to vote just to" protest " the other guys. Actually I think most votes will be a waste this election. But I will do all I can to tie Obama's hands. 90% of what he wants is stuff I have been against all my life. Maybe we can't stop him, but we can slow his ass down. If he ever does something I support I will speak out in that support. But he lost me with "cash for clunkers". And it will take something really good for me to support him on anything. The world was turning long before there was any government pulling the strings.

Supposn · Jul 16, 2012

DodgeFB said:
...............Right now it is just very hard to be elected as a libertarian or some form of green party. I don't want to waste gas going to vote just to" protest " the other guys. Actually I think most votes will be a waste this election.

Dodge FB, you’ve got it backwards. Unless you generally concur with a major party’s political position AND the party stays its course, a vote for the party is a squandered vote.

Romney is not a conservative. He can be considered as a valid conservative candidate to the extent that I’m a qualified candidate for the offices of Tel-Aviv’s chief rabbi or cardinal of Boston.

nlike Obama who has acquiesced and surrendered political ground, Romney has on many major issues reversed and turned 180 degrees to attack his prior allies and political concepts. During every administration there are incidences of significant stress. Acting true to his past, if Romney perceives personal advantage, he’ll diametrically oppose conservative principles.

Both Obama and Romney have betrayed their declared policies and betrayed their followers. Voting for them encourages them to again betray those of us who vote for them. Major parties will not cease betraying their followers, until we cease accepting such betrayals.

Voting for Democrats or Republicans rewards bad behavior. If there’s no suitable 3d party on the ballot, it’s my patriotic duty to decline to vote.

Respectfully, Supposn

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DodgeFB · Jul 17, 2012

Supposn said:
DodgeFB said:

...............Right now it is just very hard to be elected as a libertarian or some form of green party. I don't want to waste gas going to vote just to" protest " the other guys. Actually I think most votes will be a waste this election.

Dodge FB, you’ve got it backwards. Unless you generally concur with a major party’s political position AND the party stays its course, a vote for the party is a squandered vote.

Romney is not a conservative. He can be considered as a valid conservative candidate to the extent that I’m a qualified candidate for the offices of Tel-Aviv’s chief rabbi or cardinal of Boston.

nlike Obama who has acquiesced and surrendered political ground, Romney has on many major issues reversed and turned 180 degrees to attack his prior allies and political concepts. During every administration there are incidences of significant stress. Acting true to his past, if Romney perceives personal advantage, he’ll diametrically oppose conservative principles.

Both Obama and Romney have betrayed their declared policies and betrayed their followers. Voting for them encourages them to again betray those of us who vote for them. Major parties will not cease betraying their followers, until we cease accepting such betrayals.

Voting for Democrats or Republicans rewards bad behavior. If there’s no suitable 3d party on the ballot, it’s my patriotic duty to decline to vote.

Respectfully, Supposn

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I just do not believe you can change things from the outside. About 40 years ago I had to be a democrat to keep my driver's licence. Guess what party the judge and county attorney belonged to.

As for a suitable 3rd party candidate around here, might as well look for unicorns. Most of them I see are just too flaky for me.

I would love to stay home and pout on election day. But that would feel like giving up to me. Most people in this county that run for anything know my voting record. I have missed two elections in over 40 years of voting.. One I got stuck out of state in the 70s. And one I was in the hospital fighting cancer in 1984.

So we will just have to disagree on this one. I will just have to hold my nose and vote for the less of two evils, as far as I can tell.

I do expect the republicans to slow BO down a bit if he is reelected.

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Supposn · Aug 4, 2012

DodgeFB said:
..............As for a suitable 3rd party candidate around here, might as well look for unicorns. Most of them I see are just too flaky for me...................................So we will just have to disagree on this one. I will just have to hold my nose and vote for the less of two evils, as far as I can tell.............

DodgeFB, our behavior is too often less than logical.
I personally would make every effort to vote in every election until death if “None” is one of the choices on the ballot.

Otherwise I’ve decided that it is my patriotic duty to refrain from voting whenever all of the candidates are by my determination unacceptable. To do otherwise is to encourage major parties to continue spitting in our faces. If many others do the same, elected officials would act more responsibly.

Respectfully, Supposn

Neodoxy · Aug 8, 2012

What republican do you see available who has a better chance? No matter what it's kind of too late now.

David · Aug 8, 2012

Neodoxy said:
What republican do you see available who has a better chance? No matter what it's kind of too late now.

Powell but it's too late now as you said.

Road Warrior · Aug 10, 2012

Many polls put Obama ahead of Romney, but the statistics are so close, anything can happen between now and November.

We still have the conventions to look forward to seeing. This will help define each candidate's platform.

Additionally, there is the nomination of running mates and the Presidential nominee debates.

Flashlight · Sep 7, 2012

I expect every Obama speech will begin, end, and within its main body mention and praise Romney for the exact model of federal Romneycare. He’ll make mention of it during every debate.
Hasn't happened

Romney is the choice of Republican leaders. It is my opinion that Ron Paul followers in particular will prevent Romney’s nomination on the first ballot. If Romney’s fails to be nominated on the first ballot, I don’t believe the Republicans will be so foolish as to nominate him.
Didn't happen

Romney’s nomination would almost assure Obama’s election.
You were wrong on the first two, guess what?
Do your homework and discover the many differences between "Romneycare" and "Obamacare".

David · Sep 7, 2012

Flashlight said:
I expect every Obama speech will begin, end, and within its main body mention and praise Romney for the exact model of federal Romneycare. He’ll make mention of it during every debate.
Hasn't happened

Only because the whole tax record thing proved a better weapon.

Romney is the choice of Republican leaders. It is my opinion that Ron Paul followers in particular will prevent Romney’s nomination on the first ballot. If Romney’s fails to be nominated on the first ballot, I don’t believe the Republicans will be so foolish as to nominate him.
Didn't happen

How could it, he was bared from giving so much as a concession speech at the convention. The fact that so many delegates walked out in protests undermines your point.

Romney’s nomination would almost assure Obama’s election.
You were wrong on the first two, guess what?
Do your homework and discover the many differences between "Romneycare" and "Obamacare".

Yet Obama is leading in the polls and Romney's support dropped after he was nominated...

A Romney nomination almost assures Obama’s election.

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