Well if we compare that analogy to what man can do, then it's possible.
For instance, man can make a nuclear bomb. And if man decides to drop it, man cannot stop the damage it will inflict successfully.
So humans can create things that they necessarily might not be able to fully control or lift for that matter. For instance, a bridge was created by man, but man alone can not lift it.
For instance, man can make a nuclear bomb. And if man decides to drop it, man cannot stop the damage it will inflict successfully.
So humans can create things that they necessarily might not be able to fully control or lift for that matter. For instance, a bridge was created by man, but man alone can not lift it.
Look, you can look at it from both sides of the pizza:
1. He can do anything, so yes he can make a stone that he himself can not lift.
2. He CAN do anything, so even if he makes that kind of stone, can't he lift it up?
Oh my God, this thread brings me back the memories about those riddles, like if a feather drops from a tree in a forest when no one's around, does it make a sound?
Anyways this is a really hard question to actually answer, I mean.. yeah.
1. He can do anything, so yes he can make a stone that he himself can not lift.
2. He CAN do anything, so even if he makes that kind of stone, can't he lift it up?
Oh my God, this thread brings me back the memories about those riddles, like if a feather drops from a tree in a forest when no one's around, does it make a sound?
Anyways this is a really hard question to actually answer, I mean.. yeah.
But we aren't talking about man here.
And fyi in your post, "man" is plural. So yes, "man" (as in mankind) could lift the same bridge collectively.
Good point, I should have reworded it.
However, it's really hard to answer your question as each religion has their own depiction of God and from my understanding the Christian religion tends to humanize "him" (notice how I use quotes as technically God doesn't really have a gender for all we know).
However, it's really hard to answer your question as each religion has their own depiction of God and from my understanding the Christian religion tends to humanize "him" (notice how I use quotes as technically God doesn't really have a gender for all we know).
the stone
Perhaps I'm just looking at this one-dimensionally, but if God could create a stone so large he himself could not lift it, would that not be proof that he can do anything?
My thinking goes along these lines -
-God can do anything
-God creates an object that a being that can do anything cannot lift
-Therefore, God can do anything
It seems to me that if God could only create a stone that he himself could lift, that in itself would be a limit set on his abilities; rendering him not all-powerful.
Just a thought.
Perhaps I'm just looking at this one-dimensionally, but if God could create a stone so large he himself could not lift it, would that not be proof that he can do anything?
My thinking goes along these lines -
-God can do anything
-God creates an object that a being that can do anything cannot lift
-Therefore, God can do anything
It seems to me that if God could only create a stone that he himself could lift, that in itself would be a limit set on his abilities; rendering him not all-powerful.
Just a thought.
God couldnt!!!
God could not make a stone that he couldn't lift.
Well how can he be all powerful if he can not do that? You my be asking yourself.
Well he probably could make him self week so he could not lift it but then he could just make himself able to lift it if he desired.
So here is how God would do it. He would make a stone and pretend that he couldn't lift it. Why would he do that? Because he doesn't want your head to explode and if he didn't like you he would do it for real and your head would explode.
God could not make a stone that he couldn't lift.
Well how can he be all powerful if he can not do that? You my be asking yourself.
Well he probably could make him self week so he could not lift it but then he could just make himself able to lift it if he desired.
So here is how God would do it. He would make a stone and pretend that he couldn't lift it. Why would he do that? Because he doesn't want your head to explode and if he didn't like you he would do it for real and your head would explode.
Why would he be all powerful if he could create something that he couldn't lift? Because if he could not lift it then he is not all powerful. Could God KILL himself? Well if he cant kill himself then he is not all powerful.
Maybe because he can not kill himself that and he can not be killed he is all powerful.
The real question is can God create something that he cant edit?
Maybe because he can not kill himself that and he can not be killed he is all powerful.
The real question is can God create something that he cant edit?
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The point is that if he could only create something within confines (such as he has to be able to lift it) then he can't do anything. He could only be considered all powerful if he could no things with no pre-set rules in my mind.
As for the can God kill himself thing... God is immortal. God has always been and will always be, the alpha and the omega. If he were able to kill himself at the very least this would make him mortal so he would not be God anymore, therefore the point is moot and quite frankly ridiculous.
The point is that if he could only create something within confines (such as he has to be able to lift it) then he can't do anything. He could only be considered all powerful if he could no things with no pre-set rules in my mind.
As for the can God kill himself thing... God is immortal. God has always been and will always be, the alpha and the omega. If he were able to kill himself at the very least this would make him mortal so he would not be God anymore, therefore the point is moot and quite frankly ridiculous.
The more I think about it, the more it seems that such questions can't truly be answered by humans as not only are we unsure about the afterlife but our minds are limited. So if someone was told the "secret of life" I doubt they could comprehend it as life is rather complex. Your body for instance, is VERY complex as inside that pile of skin and bone there exists possibly thousands of cells.
LMAO, bwahahahahahhahahaha. I couldn't stop laughing at the thought of our dumb species dropping another nuke and then trying to stop it.
Back to the matter at hand and the answer is I don't think there is such thing as a god with a white beard and etc, though if there is a master creator then I do believe it is possible that it could create something it had no conrtol over. Rules were made to be broken and are being broken every single day. Therefore even if rules were set in place it would still be possible to eventually break them.
If the all perfect God, can create a deformed baby and not adjust his quality control program, and still look himself in the supreme face. I'm sure he could make an occasional rock, he himself couldn't lift.
I talked to my friend a few days ago and this question came up. He had a very interesting answer.
Since God is omnipotent, then the rules of logic don't apply to him.
So basically that God can indeed make a rock that is too big for him to lift, but can still lift it. It doesn't make any sense but the argument is that the rules of logic don't apply.
Interesting answer.
Since God is omnipotent, then the rules of logic don't apply to him.
So basically that God can indeed make a rock that is too big for him to lift, but can still lift it. It doesn't make any sense but the argument is that the rules of logic don't apply.
Interesting answer.
For you to compare a god to a man you would have to say that a god has no more power than a man. From my understanding, people believe god has infinite power, so you're analogy doesn't really work.
I've seen countless questions like this on the yahoo answers R&S section. It's quite a big joke over there now. It is pretty funny though. Either way it comes down to god not being able to do everything.
God, according to the Bible, can be human and divine at the same time. Thus, God could create a stone He could not lift in the aspect of human (Jesus), but could lift in the Aspect of God in Heaven. He could also simply be the stone. God could, in fact, push Himself in a wheelbarrow (try that some time) because of the aspects of supernatural that are unique to Him.
The attempt to stuff a supernatural creature into the aspects of humans is a slightly entertaining endeavor, but really pointless in its reality.
The attempt to stuff a supernatural creature into the aspects of humans is a slightly entertaining endeavor, but really pointless in its reality.
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