Could Belgium be the straw?

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Develop a method to determine the bad one.:D

Great Idea...what would you recommend as this "Method"?

Do we just ask?
Should we test every apple?
Maybe develop an antidote and hope it works?

Perhaps we should test in on other people to see is they die?
 
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Use common sense approaches. It works for Israel for their security.

I see...so build a wall and arm soldiers to shoot whoever tries to cross it?

I suppose we should also make sure all the bad guys are on the other side of it and make sure they stay there.
 
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How do YOU see it if it's so ignored? in pro-islam/liberal media sources?

Bottom line is people are growing tired of being killed in the name of islam. the onus of change is on the mythical "moderate muslim" to turn in their brothers in faith. They ought to be marching in the streets, against these people doing these crimes in the name of their faith.

they wont. in fact, many IMHO hope their more radical brothers succeed.

I heard this somewhere and it seems relevant...

"a radical muslim wants to cut off your head...a moderate muslim wants a radical muslim to cut off your head."

And therein lies my point. The media likes to go after Muslims for the same reason Mideastern media blames the West for everything bad. Attacking already demonized minorities is easier than addressing the issue. It's nobody's fault but your own if you're ignorant because it's bad business to report on something controversial in the MSM.

Interestingly, I have not seen or heard much about this, I'm sure if I decided to spend awhile on the internet doing research I could locate instances where such things take place but, I should not need to spend my effort trying to find cases of nice Muslims. They need to make me see it if they wish to help themselves...think "Back Lives Matter" volume and I am more likely to hear it.

The same goes for you. That you acknowledge you'd be proven wrong if you actually listened speaks volumes on the logical weakness of your position.
 
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....snip...


The same goes for you. That you acknowledge you'd be proven wrong if you actually listened speaks volumes on the logical weakness of your position.

The same CANNOT "Go For Me" as the issue being discussed is not ABOUT me. I have not acknowledged anything, I have simply stated I have not bothered to search for these nice Muslim actions and that they need to make them very loud and clear if they wish to be heard above the screams of pain and death.
 
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The same CANNOT "Go For Me" as the issue being discussed is not ABOUT me. I have not acknowledged anything, I have simply stated I have not bothered to search for these nice Muslim actions and that they need to make them very loud and clear if they wish to be heard above the screams of pain and death.

The media has a vested business interest in NOT making it's core market feel bad about itself. The Muslim blame game is easy, boosts ratings and does NOTHING to address the core issues.

That you can't be bothered to goo on YouTube and listen to sources unbound by traditional demographic limitations says more about you than a supposed lack of Muslim self-policing.
 
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The media has a vested business interest in NOT making it's core market feel bad about itself.


Wrong. I can't count how many times I've heard the MSM discuss the "poor disenfranchised muslim populations, immigrants, of blah, blah..."

Ever watch a TV crime drama etc. ?

Its easy to predict who did NOT commit the crime or terrorist act.
The muslim didn't. They media and Hollywood at large wants to shape public thought to "not blame muslims for terror".

Pesky reality is just getting in the way.
 
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Wrong. I can't count how many times I've heard the MSM discuss the "poor disenfranchised muslim populations, immigrants, of blah, blah..."

Ever watch a TV crime drama etc. ?

Its easy to predict who did NOT commit the crime or terrorist act.
The muslim didn't. They media and Hollywood at large wants to shape public thought to "not blame muslims for terror".

Pesky reality is just getting in the way.

The market for movies, sitcoms and drama shows is far broader than the people watching network news. Your comparing apples to broccoli in terms of what the market demographics look like.

Let's take an honest count of Christian terrorist attacks (including foiled plots) in America since 9/11 and put them against the same on the Muslim side. The numbers don't support the narrative.

As I said, it's easier to scapegoat than it it's to actually fix things.
 
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Our media trends toward sensationalism to get viewers and a couple Muslims marching in solidarity with people mourning their dead loved ones do not compare to the Muslims that blew them up.

There is also the frequency aspect...when things happen over and over weekly, it has far more impact than a singular incident.
 
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Our media trends toward sensationalism to get viewers and a couple Muslims marching in solidarity with people mourning their dead loved ones do not compare to the Muslims that blew them up.

My point, at least in part.

There is also the frequency aspect...when things happen over and over weekly, it has far more impact than a singular incident.

And how often does it REALLY happen? Do keep in mind that Europe is in the unequal position of bordering a war zone (that they're fighting in).
 
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And how often does it REALLY happen? Do keep in mind that Europe is in the unequal position of bordering a war zone (that they're fighting in).

I'm guessing four times this week...one of them in Brussels.

The only Muslims I saw morning were in Turkey.

I can only Imagine how many in Syria....there we have Muslims killing the Muslims they don't agree with, so obviously the numbers are increased and the outcry muffled.

There it is at least daily.
 
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I'm guessing four times this week...one of them in Brussels.

The only Muslims I saw morning were in Turkey.

I can only Imagine how many in Syria....there we have Muslims killing the Muslims they don't agree with, so obviously the numbers are increased and the outcry muffled.

There it is at least daily.

As I said, Europe is at war. Take away the IS affiliated attacks and try again. They happen but not with the frequency to support your position. You entier position requires a lack of context to make any sense.
 
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As I said, Europe is at war. Take away the IS affiliated attacks and try again. They happen but not with the frequency to support your position. You entier position requires a lack of context to make any sense.

Okay...let's try this:

Please tell us how many Non-Muslim attacks have transpired this year and compare it to Muslim.
 
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Okay...let's try this:

Please tell us how many Non-Muslim attacks have transpired this year and compare it to Muslim.

I'm at the gym right now but I'll get back to you when I get home. Phones just aren't convenient.
 
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