Deists and scientists: peaceful coexistence

Feb 2011
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New Jersey, USA
Yes, most aggressive atheists are not scientists. And most aggressive theists are not theologians.

Ludwsik Kowalski (see Wikipedia)
 
Mar 2009
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Yes, most aggressive atheists are not scientists. And most aggressive theists are not theologians.

Ludwsik Kowalski (see Wikipedia)
Very true. And both of those groups can be very aggravating to listen to at times.:)
 
Jan 2012
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Texas
Yes, most aggressive atheists are not scientists. And most aggressive theists are not theologians.

Ludwsik Kowalski (see Wikipedia)
I do not concider myself a theologian, or a scientist. I am a philosopher, and I question everything, including my beliefs.
 
Aug 2010
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Reynoldsburg, OH
clax, et al,

Humm, most interesting.

I do not concider myself a theologian, or a scientist. I am a philosopher, and I question everything, including my beliefs.
(PERSONAL OBSERVATION)

  • A person engaged in the study of the fundamental nature of knowledge, reality, and existence, when considered as an academic discipline.
  • A person who is studying or has expert knowledge of one or more of the natural or physical sciences.
  • A person who engages or is an expert in the study of religious faith, practice, and experience: the study of God and of God's relation to the world.

The philosopher and the scientist are related, in that the philosopher studies the interrogatives (who, what, when, where, why, and how) surrounding that which the scientist learns; and the methodology by which it was derived.

The philosopher and the Theologian are related, in that the philosopher studies the interrogatives (who, what, when, where, why, and how) surrounding that which the theologian takes on faith and examines.

But the scientist and the theologian are not related; except in a tangential way --- only because they are both objects of study by the philosopher. The philosopher examines that region where the two studies (science and theology) touch, that single point, but where neither study cross at that point. This point is undefined; it is where faith, reality, and existence are all questionable.

Theology is a truncated study. It ends with faith, and the theologian studies the technical aspects of the belief structure that brought them to that point in faith (everything that came before).

Science is an infinite struggle and search (everything that is to come) with corrections to preconceived notions and previous theorems. It is deluged by dilemma and vigorously contested at every step. Unlike faith, it is about the unknown.​

Most Respectfully,
R
 
Jan 2012
1,975
5
Texas
clax, et al,

Humm, most interesting.

(PERSONAL OBSERVATION)

  • A person engaged in the study of the fundamental nature of knowledge, reality, and existence, when considered as an academic discipline.
  • A person who is studying or has expert knowledge of one or more of the natural or physical sciences.
  • A person who engages or is an expert in the study of religious faith, practice, and experience: the study of God and of God's relation to the world.

The philosopher and the scientist are related, in that the philosopher studies the interrogatives (who, what, when, where, why, and how) surrounding that which the scientist learns; and the methodology by which it was derived.

The philosopher and the Theologian are related, in that the philosopher studies the interrogatives (who, what, when, where, why, and how) surrounding that which the theologian takes on faith and examines.

But the scientist and the theologian are not related; except in a tangential way --- only because they are both objects of study by the philosopher. The philosopher examines that region where the two studies (science and theology) touch, that single point, but where neither study cross at that point. This point is undefined; it is where faith, reality, and existence are all questionable.

Theology is a truncated study. It ends with faith, and the theologian studies the technical aspects of the belief structure that brought them to that point in faith (everything that came before).

Science is an infinite struggle and search (everything that is to come) with corrections to preconceived notions and previous theorems. It is deluged by dilemma and vigorously contested at every step. Unlike faith, it is about the unknown.​

Most Respectfully,
R
Facenating, philosopher describes me very well.

Faith is about the unknown, the difference between science and faith is faith is acceptance of the faithful that all questions are not answerable. Science is the idea that there is an answer and we can find it.
 
Jan 2012
1,975
5
Texas
The delima I see is between atheists and theists is that theists need justification of their existance, atheists do not. Justifcation is outside the reach of science in any provable way. Science may answer the question of how we got here but not why. Theism is the other side of the coin, it is only the justification of existance. It dose not enter the rhelm of how, it only answers why.

Personal beliefs have nothing to do with discovery of knowledge. The idea that they disprove eachother I find to be absolutly absurd
 
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