Do humans have inherent dignity

Jan 2012
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Do humans have inherent dignity in an unbiased argument (no religion, no bias, just facts)?
I say no because you have no physical proof.
 
Mar 2012
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HONG KONG
Of course dignity doesnt exist physically. Although, with many people already believing this idea it makes it a REAL object in some sense, physical or not. Yes, people also believe in many unsimilar religions but what makes these real is how each one of them affect our daily lives by the way we do things more than any other person or thing.
 
Jan 2012
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Things that have no phisical proof, can exist outside of physics, if everything must have physical proof to exist, i pity the world where that is true. However being unable to prove something mathematically does open it to fraudulent claims.

I think there is vastly more unknown in the universe that that which all of humanity knows.
 
Mar 2012
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Physics is not species specific. It is universal. And if it turns out that it isn't, then we will make it so. Just kidding, physics is the pure science just behind mathematics. But, if there is something that isn't kosher, then physics will adapt. But, you have to prove religion, not just say that it must be dis-proven. Physics is proven. Religion is just so much clap trap.
 
Jan 2012
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Physics is not species specific. It is universal. And if it turns out that it isn't, then we will make it so. Just kidding, physics is the pure science just behind mathematics. But, if there is something that isn't kosher, then physics will adapt. But, you have to prove religion, not just say that it must be dis-proven. Physics is proven. Religion is just so much clap trap.
Religion physically exists there are churches that are religious institutions, religion exist there is no question. The question is dose God exist. Physics is applied mathmatics, and it isnt the only test of proof. That being said nobody will ever prove God exists. But why do i have to prove it universally to have a belief? People believe there is life on alien planets based on pure faith, yet it is okay to believe that with evidence to the contrary.

Furthermore physics is human perception, it isnt fact, and cannot be proven outside of the scope of the human capacity to understand it. So simply put people who believe physics is absolute proof need to reexamine the origins of it, and our limits of understanding.

There is more to the totality of existance than just how it fits into equations.


Dont start with the the insults. If you dont believe in god, that is fine but i do, and to me it isnt clap trap. I am perfectly capable of respecting an atheist and their opinions. Dont be so disrespectful toward me.
 
Mar 2012
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Whidbey Island, Wa
Religion physically exists there are churches that are religious institutions, religion exist there is no question. The question is dose God exist. Physics is applied mathmatics, and it isnt the only test of proof. That being said nobody will ever prove God exists. But why do i have to prove it universally to have a belief? People believe there is life on alien planets based on pure faith, yet it is okay to believe that with evidence to the contrary.

Furthermore physics is human perception, it isnt fact, and cannot be proven outside of the scope of the human capacity to understand it. So simply put people who believe physics is absolute proof need to reexamine the origins of it, and our limits of understanding.

There is more to the totality of existance than just how it fits into equations.


Dont start with the the insults. If you dont believe in god, that is fine but i do, and to me it isnt clap trap. I am perfectly capable of respecting an atheist and their opinions. Dont be so disrespectful toward me.

Sorry, I apologize. I was being very, very insensitive, boorish and rude, not to mention arrogant. I was pushing my beliefs for no better reason than those that wear suits and knock on my door. I favor science, and I do respect those that favor a belief in an almighty being. I tend to get defensive when morality is exclusively claimed by people of 'faith'; however, that was not being discussed here, so again, I apologize.

That being said, I have to defend scientists that think that there may be "life on alien planets based on pure faith". No, don't you make possibilities of our growing knowledge of the insignificance of human existence into an acceptance by faith. It is a growing consensus of the possibility that we may not be alone, but that is not 'pure faith'. Pure faith is the ability to suspend knowledge and intuition, scientific method is the opposite. Knowledge grows from previous observations, current experiments, and future hypotheses. Faith just sits there.
 
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