For or Against Capital Punishment?

For or Against Capital Punishment?

  • For

    Votes: 16 64.0%
  • Against

    Votes: 8 32.0%
  • Undecided/No Comment

    Votes: 1 4.0%

  • Total voters
    25
Jan 2010
317
0
When they call the police and say I killed my kids, as far as I am concerned they did it. I think the people that put killers back on the street should be held accountable when they kill again. Charge them with murder too.

You don't have to keep telling me who made humans. :rolleyes: But in her case I think she left the ranch when she killed her kids. AS for me, I would rather just get the death penalty than go to prison as a "baby killer".

Short of God coming right up in my face and telling me I am wrong, I don't see me changing my opinion. I have had real life experience in my family that could make me go either way. And I never wavered at anytime. I had a family member that was thought to have killed someone. And it was proved they did not. And I have had more than one of my family raped and beaten. One was thrown out of a moving car in Louisville after three days of this abuse. And guess what, the bastards are walking free today.:mad:

So just don't waste your time trying to convince me how God made them and that society should take resources that could be used for "good" people and waste them on killers and rapist.

I would kill them and stand before God today if I could.

You have lived an extreme life and it has imposed an extreme view on you. I am sorry. I suggest you read the Bible. There is an answer there for each of us, and IMO it is never exactly the same for any two people. God Bless.
 
Mar 2009
2,751
6
Undisclosed
You have lived an extreme life and it has imposed an extreme view on you. I am sorry. I suggest you read the Bible. There is an answer there for each of us, and IMO it is never exactly the same for any two people. God Bless.
I have been reading the Bible for over 50 years. And God has blessed me in many ways. I have no fear of my relationship with God. He gives me a little nudge once in a while to keep me out of real trouble.;)
 

GOP

Feb 2010
360
0
United Kingdom
I am very for capital punishment. For many this would be interpreted as "I am very for killing people". And I've been debating this with a lot of people who believe that the greatest form of punishment is to put people in jail for life. I agree it is a very great form of punishing people. Capital punishment is the correct way to tell people that if you show that you're able to kill people and you know what you're doing is completely wrong, well then you shouldn't be a loud to live. And people need to stop using the argument: "The punishment is greater if they have to be in jail for the rest of their lives." The most important thing is not the feelings of the criminal, it's what the people who are left behind as a friend or as a family member of the victim. The important thing is what they feel, and I know I'd be very comfortable knowing that a person who killed my friend or family member would be gone for ever and could never hurt a living sole again.
 

GOP

Feb 2010
360
0
United Kingdom
How do you feel about all the people DNA is discovering were innocent?

I feel they should never have been punished in the first place and that the and the court has done a very bad job. That risk will still exist with or without capital punishment. But that shouldn't stop real criminals from getting what they deserve.
 
Jul 2009
5,893
474
Port St. Lucie
I feel they should never have been punished in the first place and that the and the court has done a very bad job. That risk will still exist with or without capital punishment. But that shouldn't stop real criminals from getting what they deserve.

Slavery is better. Just set them free and pay them for their labor if it comes out we got the wrong person. The taking of ones freedom is worse then death in my view.
 

GOP

Feb 2010
360
0
United Kingdom
And why should we care about what is "best" for the criminals? What about what is the best for the victims, the victims family and friends? For a lot of people, including myself, it's quite reassuring to know that a person who killed a relative, a friend etc., can never do harm again. Let's start treating victims with respect, instead of focusing on the criminals all the time.
 
Jul 2009
5,893
474
Port St. Lucie
And why should we care about what is "best" for the criminals? What about what is the best for the victims, the victims family and friends? For a lot of people, including myself, it's quite reassuring to know that a person who killed a relative, a friend etc., can never do harm again. Let's start treating victims with respect, instead of focusing on the criminals all the time.

Best for the criminal? What part of 'worse' did you not get?
 

GOP

Feb 2010
360
0
United Kingdom
What I meant was from a court and from the victims point of view, we shouldn't think of the criminals so much, and rather focus on how the victims feel.
 
Jul 2009
5,893
474
Port St. Lucie
What I meant was from a court and from the victims point of view, we shouldn't think of the criminals so much, and rather focus on how the victims feel.

Even if you have the wrong person? Besides, corpses are useless to society.
 

GOP

Feb 2010
360
0
United Kingdom
Of course not. In situation where this occurs the innocent person should be released immediately. But you also have to remember when people are on death row, they wait very long before they get their final punishment as in comparison to jail, they lock them up right after a court case.
 
Jul 2009
5,893
474
Port St. Lucie
Of course not. In situation where this occurs the innocent person should be released immediately. But you also have to remember when people are on death row, they wait very long before they get their final punishment as in comparison to jail, they lock them up right after a court case.

And such people wast money. I'm all for revenge but only when it's practical. If you're not for summery executions, then the death penalty is no good.
 

GOP

Feb 2010
360
0
United Kingdom
We waste much more money on keeping jails for criminals then we do for giving them the capital punishment.
 
Jan 2010
317
0
I feel they should never have been punished in the first place and that the and the court has done a very bad job. That risk will still exist with or without capital punishment. But that shouldn't stop real criminals from getting what they deserve.

So how do we figure out which is which? If you hang (or whatever) the "really guilty" but let those who don't admit guilt live, what do you think is going to happen?

I'm not trying to hassle you, but IMO the problem is just about unsolvable.
 

GOP

Feb 2010
360
0
United Kingdom
No no I understand that, and the situation around capital punishment is a complex one. It's difficult to say, as you just did, which is which. But my reasons for being positive to this solution for criminals is not because I want to kill people, it's because I want the victims in society to be absolutely 100% that the person who has done things criminal act can never do it again. And there is only one way of making sure of that, through capital punishment.
 
Jul 2009
5,893
474
Port St. Lucie
No no I understand that, and the situation around capital punishment is a complex one. It's difficult to say, as you just did, which is which. But my reasons for being positive to this solution for criminals is not because I want to kill people, it's because I want the victims in society to be absolutely 100% that the person who has done things criminal act can never do it again. And there is only one way of making sure of that, through capital punishment.

Brainwashing them or rearranging their brains so as to make them passive works as well if you can get past the ethical issues. do it right and it's even reversible if it comes out their innocent.

As I said, it's all about practicability. why kill/imprison someone who could work?
 
Apr 2009
1,943
5
Disunited Queendom
We waste much more money on keeping jails for criminals then we do for giving them the capital punishment.

You're prepared to put monetary value on human life (including the possibly innocent)? That's twisted.
 
I just had this discussion with a few of my friends the other day... whether we were for or against capital punishment.

One of my friends said that he's against it because being put in prison for life is the worst punishment anyone could have. I disagree with this - a lot of the times murderers etc. don't serve their full sentence and get off on parole. They get free room, free meals, free education, etc.

For me, I think if someone kills someone, they should be sentenced to death in the same way they murdered the person. None of this, "we're going to peacefully kill you with an injection." If you want to knife someone and let them bleed out, then you get knifed and bled out.

We're far too easy on our criminals.

I am against the death penalty only because it is not given fairly. I am a conservative yet against capital punishment. Over all races and ethnicities and no matter the gender, those with money get the lesser sentence most often. After that females get the lesser sentence for the same exact crime.

As for those who deserve the death penalty, the worst of the worst....put them in the general population and allow nature to take it's course. I guarantee that child molesters will be dealt with far more severely than any court could; psycho murderers will meet their fate and rapists will be very unhappy.
 
Brainwashing them or rearranging their brains so as to make them passive works as well if you can get past the ethical issues. do it right and it's even reversible if it comes out their innocent.

As I said, it's all about practicability. why kill/imprison someone who could work?

That's a good point. We have much that could be done by inmates. They certainly could earn their keep. And I'd rather not see someone innocent put to death, even though it's rare, I'd rather err on the side of caution. I kind of like this idea of yours, though it could get out of hand and to too far.
 
Jul 2009
5,893
474
Port St. Lucie
That's a good point. We have much that could be done by inmates. They certainly could earn their keep. And I'd rather not see someone innocent put to death, even though it's rare, I'd rather err on the side of caution. I kind of like this idea of yours, though it could get out of hand and to too far.


Thankfully criminal slavery is legal in America, ironically by the same amendment that outlawed racial slavery.
 
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