Iowa Poll: Gingrich Leads Paul, Romney

CatholicCrusader · Dec 5, 2011

Iowa Poll: Gingrich Leads Paul, Romney
Sunday, 04 Dec 2011 09:09 AM
LINK: http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/...l/2011/12/03/id/419863?s=al&promo_code=DA4A-1

A surge in support for Republican White House hopeful Newt Gingrich has made him the new front-runner in Iowa, which holds the first of next year's U.S. presidential nominating contests, according to a closely watched opinion poll published Saturday.

Gingrich, a former speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives, has support from 25 percent of likely Republican caucus-goers, up from just 7 percent in late October, the poll conducted for The Des Moines Register newspaper found.

The good news for Gingrich comes in the wake of the suspension of Herman Cain's campaign, and at the beginning of a very busy week for the GOP candidates.

Cain?s announcement in Atlanta Saturday offered a possible opening for former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney or Gingrich to make a dramatic move in hopes of seizing momentum for the sprint to the Jan. 3 Iowa caucus.

This week will be a busy one for the candidates, with a forum before Jewish leaders and a debate Saturday hosted by ABC News in Des Moines. Hanging over the field is the question of whether Gingrich can seize on his ascent in the polls and possibly pick up some of Cain?s conservative support.

Gingrich sought to convince conservatives in a forum Saturday night that he would not stray from a limited-government philosophy, the Washington Post reported.

Asked why conservatives should trust that he won?t advance ?big government approaches,? given his history of supporting an individual health-care mandate, climate change policies and a larger federal role in education policy, Gingrich said it was his years in Washington that made him best-suited to transform government.

?You cannot get the scale of change we want, and you can?t get the scale of change the tea parties want, by just appointing good people who have no understanding of the fight they?re about to be in,? Gingrich said..........<SNIP>

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DodgeFB · Dec 5, 2011

Next thing ya know Newt will be running as an "outsider". In my opinion if Newt is the Republican running one on one against Obama next year O'bama gets 4 more years. Newt and Ron Paul are the two "wild cards" as I see it. If Ron Paul runs as an independent he could change the whole election. He could get the money and his base will be there for him hell or high water.

Now all this is just me thinking out loud, it could change.

CatholicCrusader · Dec 5, 2011

Well, I don't care what anyone says; I like Newt and always have, and I am voting for him

DodgeFB · Dec 5, 2011

CatholicCrusader said:
Well, I don't care what anyone says; I like Newt and always have, and I am voting for him

I have no problem with anyone voting for Newt or liking him. I have liked him since the 90s. I just think he may be the one that gives O'bama another 4 years. Newt has a lot of "history". Much of it not good. No one knows (not even Newt) when his next train wreck is coming. Anyone that thinks W. Bush ran the country off in the ditch will hate what Newt does on a bad day.

RoccoR · Dec 5, 2011

CatholicCrusader, et al ,

I am not opposed to Newt Gingrich, but I don't see him as any better than any other Armchair Leader in Washington.

CatholicCrusader said:
Well, I don't care what anyone says; I like Newt and always have, and I am voting for him

(COMMENT)

What does Newt Gingrich bring to the table relative to the current crisis in America. His whole "Jobs and Prosperity Plan" is smoke and mirrors. He is not suggesting that we reinvest in the American Infrastructure. He is not interested in rebuilding America. It is all armchair paper shuffling, leadership by legislation from the comfort of a stuffed leather chair.

Stop the 2013 tax increases to promote stability in the economy.
Make the United States the most desirable location for new business investment through a bold series of tax cuts.
Move toward an optional flat tax of 15%.
Strengthen the dollar by returning to the Reagan-era monetary policies.
Remove obstacles to job creation imposed by destructive and ineffective regulations, programs and bureaucracies.
Implement an American energy policy.
Repeal and replace Obamacare.
Fundamental reform of entitlement programs.

I want to see someone that wants get down and dirty - rebuilding America - at least to the billions we spent trying it in Iraq and Afghanistan. I want to see a President that is willing to cut-off the foreign/military aid to these other countries and reinvest it in American Projects. Heaven knows we could use some help here.

No, Newt Gingrich is not offering anything new; just the same old leadership we have seen in the past parade of failures (Republican & Democrat).

I don't want another string of unfulfilled promises. I want to see a leader that can put our Snake-oil Congress to work. Or, I want to see them lose their pay and benefits.

Most Respectfully,
R

Patrick · Dec 5, 2011

DodgeFB said:
Next thing ya know Newt will be running as an "outsider". In my opinion if Newt is the Republican running one on one against Obama next year O'bama gets 4 more years. Newt and Ron Paul are the two "wild cards" as I see it. If Ron Paul runs as an independent he could change the whole election. He could get the money and his base will be there for him hell or high water.

Now all this is just me thinking out loud, it could change.

This "outsider" fetish is the crude mental product of the simpleminded. It goes like this: "A lot of bad has come out of washington, therefore, I don't want anyone who has been in washington." Obviously, it matters what you DID when you were there.

From wikipedia:

A co-author and architect of the Contract with America , Gingrich was in the forefront of Republican Party success in the 1994 congressional election . In 1995, Time magazine named him "Man of the Year " for his role in ending 40 years of majority rule by the Democratic Party . During his four years as House speaker, Gingrich sometimes opposed President Bill Clinton , but he also worked closely with Clinton in 1996 to limit public welfare ; in 1997 to pass a capital gains tax cut ; and in 1998 to pass the first balanced budget since 1969.

Gingrich would CERTAINLY be able to work effectively with congress. It was under his leadership, not Clinton's whom the leftwing likes to give credit, that a balanced budget was achieved. Gingrich has a PhD in history, and has intellectual heft. (Unlike obama, his degrees don't represent little more than "affirmative action")

Gingrich would make mincemeat out of obama in a fair debate. You're right that Ron Paul running as an independent would "change the whole election" - instead of a certain GOP win, it would split the anti-obama vote and mean four more years of obama. You have just about everything backwards.

DodgeFB · Dec 5, 2011

Patrick said:
This "outsider" fetish is the crude mental product of the simpleminded. It goes like this: "A lot of bad has come out of washington, therefore, I don't want anyone who has been in washington." Obviously, it matters what you DID when you were there.

From wikipedia:

Gingrich would CERTAINLY be able to work effectively with congress. It was under his leadership, not Clinton's whom the leftwing likes to give credit, that a balanced budget was achieved. Gingrich has a PhD in history, and has intellectual heft. (Unlike obama, his degrees don't represent little more than "affirmative action")

Gingrich would make mincemeat out of obama in a fair debate. You're right that Ron Paul running as an independent would "change the whole election" - instead of a certain GOP win, it would split the anti-obama vote and mean four more years of obama. You have just about everything backwards.

I have tried to stay out of your way, but since this was to me I shall respond. Newt has done many good things. But he has also been a big hypocrite over the years. He has sold out much of his integrity in both his private and public life. Some of us Republicans may chose to ignore his faults. But not enough independents and democrats will fall for his show this time. That is why I think he can't win. Many never knew, some have forgotten, all will be reminded in the months to come.

Like this:
[SIZE=+2]
House Reprimands, Penalizes Speaker [SIZE=-1]By John E. Yang
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, January 22 1997; Page A01
The House voted overwhelmingly yesterday to reprimand House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) and order him to pay an unprecedented $300,000 penalty, the first time in the House's 208-year history it has disciplined a speaker for ethical wrongdoing.
The ethics case and its resolution leave Gingrich with little leeway for future personal controversies, House Republicans said. Exactly one month before yesterday's vote, Gingrich admitted that he brought discredit to the House and broke its rules by failing to ensure that financing for two projects would not violate federal tax law and by giving the House ethics committee false information.
"Newt has done some things that have embarrassed House Republicans and embarrassed the House," said Rep. Peter Hoekstra (R-Mich.). "If [the voters] see more of that, they will question our judgment."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/govt/leadership/stories/012297.htm

Patrick · Dec 5, 2011

You're exaggerating gingrich's previous problems. The ethics probe was based on a claim that he illegally used gopac funds for re-election. A charge was later brought on this, but was thrown out by a federal district judge as without merit. There was a lot of anti-Gingrich sentiment among old-boy GOPers in the House back when this happened, because he was sort of a "young turk" who upset their sclerotic order in the early 90s (one consequence of which was a GOP-ruled House for the first time in 40 years.)

And if he is the nominee, what will the dems make of it? The liberal press doesn't want to talk about obama's questionable past: his friendships with crook Tony Rezko and terrorist bomber Bill Ayers, or how he got a grant for a chicago hospital and they rewarded him with a fake $300,000 a year job for Mushelle. Republicans can talk about it.

Gingrich's only problem is he doesn't get it on the illegal alien invasion.

The country is really hurting now, with the worst possible person in the president's office. You think that people who might lose their jobs, their houses, and their 401ks, want to talk about the fine points of ethics? What they want is to clear out the leftwingers so that this country can recover.

DodgeFB · Dec 5, 2011

Patrick said:
You're exaggerating gingrich's previous problems. The ethics probe was based on a claim that he illegally used gopac funds for re-election. A charge was later brought on this, but was thrown out by a federal district judge as without merit. There was a lot of anti-Gingrich sentiment among old-boy GOPers in the House back when this happened, because he was sort of a "young turk" who upset their sclerotic order in the early 90s (one consequence of which was a GOP-ruled House for the first time in 40 years.)

And if he is the nominee, what will the dems make of it? The liberal press doesn't want to talk about obama's questionable past: his friendships with crook Tony Rezko and terrorist bomber Bill Ayers, or how he got a grant for a chicago hospital and they rewarded him with a fake $300,000 a year job for Mushelle. Republicans can talk about it.

Gingrich's only problem is he doesn't get it on the illegal alien invasion.

The country is really hurting now, with the worst possible person in the president's office. You think that people who might lose their jobs, their houses, and their 401ks, want to talk about the fine points of ethics? What they want is to clear out the leftwingers so that this country can recover.

I am "exaggeratin" anything! He admitted some of it, even giving false information. And as one that has taken care of a very sick wife for over 10 years I know how low you have to be to walk out on a sick wife. Just looking at how he treated the first two wives says a lot about the man.

But as I said it will take a lot to get enough voters to turn a blind eye this time. And that ol yes he is bad but theirs is worse sounds like some democrats talking about Bush. Yes it is bad now but it would have worse........:giggle:

Once and for all, I don't tell anyone who to vote for. I don't think there is a star in the whole damn bunch. And that is sad that this country will just settle for best of the worst at a time like this.

Patrick · Dec 5, 2011

Before you get all weepy for his first wife, note that she (Jackie Battley) was dating him when he was 16 and a student, and she was his geometry teacher. If she did the same thing now, she'd get sent to prison for statuatory rape.

Gingrich has the smarts to put this country on track, even if he isn't perfect. But, let's get him for what happened decades ago - we won't nominate him - THAT'LL FIX HIM!! SO WHAT if we get obama back, and lose our job, our house, and our 401K - WE GOT NEWT!! YAAAA!!!!

gracekeller · Dec 6, 2011

Voters

happy to know that..

DodgeFB · Dec 6, 2011

Patrick said:
Before you get all weepy for his first wife, note that she (Jackie Battley) was dating him when he was 16 and a student, and she was his geometry teacher. If she did the same thing now, she'd get sent to prison for statuatory rape.

Gingrich has the smarts to put this country on track, even if he isn't perfect. But, let's get him for what happened decades ago - we won't nominate him - THAT'LL FIX HIM!! SO WHAT if we get obama back, and lose our job, our house, and our 401K - WE GOT NEWT!! YAAAA!!!!

Not "weepy" in the least.

I am just one of his supporters that he let down in the past. I don't have to look this stuff up. I remember when it happened.

I am one of those people that look at what someone did in the past as an indication of what they may do in the future. And many times Newt is his own worst enemy.

As for beating O'bama, picking Newt may very well hand the election to O'bama on a platter. Look at what he is doing now, running sucking up to Trump. Trump's little run was a joke. So go kiss his ring????

Nancy P. says she will pull his congressional hearing files and remind everyone of how he operates. This is what I am talking about when I say he has too much garbage to win. I am not trying to elect anyone at this time. So you can get your drawers in a wad at me if you want to. But it will not change Newt's record. I just think it is a shame that we as Republicans can't come up with someone better than the crowd we have. Who knows, the democrats have a severely flawed candidate too. So I expect the election to be like putting two cats in a sack and betting on which one comes out first. This I think we do know, ever who wins this election will be in over their head from day one.

So just settle down and have a nice day. It will be a long ride.

Patrick · Dec 6, 2011

If most people thought like you, you could settle down for four more years of obama. Fortunately, unlike you, most people are more concerned with whether the country goes down in flames than they are with Gingrich's personal matters from decades ago.

And Gingrich would wipe the floor with the stutter king in debate. It all depends on what people are concerned about. And people are concerned with the economy, the national debt, jobs, etc. In a race between Gingrich and obama, the choice would be clear.

As for Pelosi, if she wants to talk trash, how about Gingrich then discussing the 60 Minutes report of how she bought millions of dollars of Visa stock, thwarted credit card reform for two years, and earned 200% on her investment? What goes around comes around.

DodgeFB · Dec 6, 2011

Patrick said:
If most people thought like you, you could settle down for four more years of obama. Fortunately, unlike you, most people are more concerned with whether the country goes down in flames than they are with Gingrich's personal matters from decades ago.

And Gingrich would wipe the floor with the stutter king in debate. It all depends on what people are concerned about. And people are concerned with the economy, the national debt, jobs, etc. In a race between Gingrich and obama, the choice would be clear.

As for Pelosi, if she wants to talk trash, how about Gingrich then discussing the 60 Minutes report of how she bought millions of dollars of Visa stock, thwarted credit card reform for two years, and earned 200% on her investment? What goes around comes around.

That's why we have elections. I don't know who will win, and you don't either. You seem to think I want to keep O'bamma, wrong Scooter. I want him gone as much as anyone. But I would like to replace him with someone with character. And I just have doubts about Newt's ethics at times. He has a long time to show if he has really changed. Newt knows history, so he knows how to play the part.

Patrick · Dec 6, 2011

DodgeFB said:
That's why we have elections. I don't know who will win, and you don't either. You seem to think I want to keep O'bamma, wrong Scooter. I want him gone as much as anyone. But I would like to replace him with someone with character. And I just have doubts about Newt's ethics at times. He has a long time to show if he has really changed. Newt knows history, so he knows how to play the part.

You may have to settle for someone who isn't Mother Teresa but can get the job done.

DodgeFB · Dec 6, 2011

Patrick said:
You may have to settle for someone who isn't Mother Teresa but can get the job done.

I have no idea who could do the job right now.

CatholicCrusader · Dec 7, 2011

DodgeFB said:
I have no idea who could do the job right now.

Newt!!

DodgeFB · Dec 7, 2011

CatholicCrusader said:
Newt!!

That is your opinion. And I respect that. But I think Newt is at times dishonest. I would not vote for him for Mayor, much less president.

CatholicCrusader · Dec 8, 2011

DodgeFB said:
That is your opinion. And I respect that. But I think Newt is at times dishonest. I would not vote for him for Mayor, much less president.

Let me know when you find a 100% honest person to vote for. I might jump on board.

DodgeFB · Dec 8, 2011

CatholicCrusader said:
Let me know when you find a 100% honest person to vote for. I might jump on board.

That is why I may not vote for the president next time. I just know for sure Newt is dishonest. And it does not look like any decent candidate will have a chance anyway. But I have made it for about 3 years feeling like I have no president. So I can make another 5 if need be.

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