Korean Situation

Oct 2012
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Flower Mound, TX (In the basement.)
To sum up.....

North Korea...a new leader. (untested)
South Korea...a new leader. (untested)
China...a new lead. (untested)
Japan...a new leader. (untested)

USA...a "leader" who has been tested and found to be a fool.


What could possibly go wrong?
 
Oct 2012
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Louisville, Ky
It is always a pity to see what could become a productive and viable thread be spoiled by petty and divisive commentary that kills it before it has a chance.

You may disagree with our President, his policies, his party, his skin color, his middle name, his wifes hair style, or his choice of dog breed....but by stating he is a fool one is forced to consider the source, and how it might compare.


If you like, I can remove the wasted commentary, the we can discuss the useful information within this thread.
 
Jul 2009
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Port St. Lucie
To sum up.....

North Korea...a new leader. (untested)
South Korea...a new leader. (untested)
China...a new lead. (untested)
Japan...a new leader. (untested)

USA...a "leader" who has been tested and found to be a fool.


What could possibly go wrong?

A fool who grows up in the 3rd World, becomes a wealthy lawyer, proceeds to out maneuver the most powerful political family in America (the Clintons) to become POTUS by 1 of the largest margins in history then goes on to win reelection by another landslide while leading a ticket that defangs the opposition isn't a fool. That my friend is a political god, regardless of your opinion of his platform.
 
Mar 2009
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My dad was in the "conflict" with North Korea back when we were actually "at war". He always told me," son one day we will need to go back and finish the job."
 
Oct 2012
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My dad was in the "conflict" with North Korea back when we were actually "at war". He always told me," son one day we will need to go back and finish the job."

I can only hope your Dad was wrong....
 
Oct 2012
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21
Flower Mound, TX (In the basement.)
It is always a pity to see what could become a productive and viable thread be spoiled by petty and divisive commentary that kills it before it has a chance.

You may disagree with our President, his policies, his party, his skin color, his middle name, his wifes hair style, or his choice of dog breed....but by stating he is a fool one is forced to consider the source, and how it might compare.


If you like, I can remove the wasted commentary, the we can discuss the useful information within this thread.

LOL!

Well, he is. Can any of you, that support this current president, actually say you thought that Bush 43 was not a fool? Doubtful.

Besides, calling him a fool, is not the same as saying obama is stupid. He is not, but he is still a fool with foolish ideas and goals.

Yes, I agree that I, purposely, added the comment on obama and it greatly changes my OP.

Please do not delete any of my OP. It is all there on purpose.
 
Oct 2012
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Flower Mound, TX (In the basement.)
My dad was in the "conflict" with North Korea back when we were actually "at war". He always told me," son one day we will need to go back and finish the job."

We did finish the job.
 
Oct 2012
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Flower Mound, TX (In the basement.)
The purpose of the UN military intervention in Korea in 1950 was to ensure the borders, safety and viability of the South Korean government and nation. In that the goal was completed.

If by finishing the job one means unification of the Korean peninsula by the South and/or the USA, you are sorely mistaken. That is NOT going to happen. The best the world can hope for is a regime change in the North.
 
May 2012
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The motherland
The reunification of Germany was possible because the Soviet Union collapsed and East Germans were free to choose their own government but North Korea is a puppet regime controlled by the Chinese Communist Party. China only pays lip service to the reunification of the Korean Peninsula while it has no intention of abandoning its communist ally. If North Korea falls, China's communist rule will be jeopardised and China fears the domino effect stemming from the democratisation of North Korea as the CCP's survival is at stake and China will repeat the Korean War without hesitation if North Korea is invaded.
 
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Mar 2009
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The purpose of the UN military intervention in Korea in 1950 was to ensure the borders, safety and viability of the South Korean government and nation. In that the goal was completed.

If by finishing the job one means unification of the Korean peninsula by the South and/or the USA, you are sorely mistaken. That is NOT going to happen. The best the world can hope for is a regime change in the North.
I think " regime change in the North" will have to happen for that country to ever make real progress. I don't care if the south and the north ever join together. But that little goofy dude needs to go.:rolleyes:
 
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Oct 2012
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Flower Mound, TX (In the basement.)
The reunification of Germany was possible because the Soviet Union collapsed and East Germans were free to choose their own government but North Korea is a puppet regime controlled by the Chinese Communist Party. China only pays lip service to the reunification of the Korean Peninsula while it has no intention of abandoning its communist ally. If North Korea falls, China's communist rule will be jeopardised and China fears the domino effect stemming from the democratisation of North Korea as the CCP's survival is at stake and China will repeat the Korean War without hesitation if North Korea is invaded.

Good sum up of the situation.
 
Jul 2009
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Port St. Lucie
The reunification of Germany was possible because the Soviet Union collapsed and East Germans were free to choose their own government but North Korea is a puppet regime controlled by the Chinese Communist Party. China only pays lip service to the reunification of the Korean Peninsula while it has no intention of abandoning its communist ally. If North Korea falls, China's communist rule will be jeopardised and China fears the domino effect stemming from the democratisation of North Korea as the CCP's survival is at stake and China will repeat the Korean War without hesitation if North Korea is invaded.

A choice they regret...
 
Jul 2013
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los angeles
First Impressions?

IMHO the Korean peninsula is the one spot on this planet where an aggressor could kill thousands of US troops and, possibly, tens of thousands of civilians in a matter of hours.

With that in mind, it's worth considering some facts that North Koreans are well aware of while most Americans are probably indifferent to, at best:

"A Pop Quiz on Korea
by GARY LEUPP
(Choose the best answer. 3 points each. Answers at the end.)

1. In 1866 the U.S. merchant ship General Sherman defied the laws of Korea (then pursuing a policy of strict isolation) by entering Korean waters, and sailing up the Taedong River towards Pyongyang to demand trade. What happened to the ship?

a. It was attacked by local people and soldiers, burned, and sunk, with the loss of its entire crew.

b. Its crew was politely told that since Korea was a satrapy of China all negotiations concerning commerce had to take place via Beijing.

c. It was welcomed, and Korean officials began discussing with the Americans a Treaty of Amity and Commerce."

A Pop Quiz on Korea » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names
 
Aug 2013
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Oklahoma
LOL!

Well, he is. Can any of you, that support this current president, actually say you thought that Bush 43 was not a fool? Doubtful.

Besides, calling him a fool, is not the same as saying obama is stupid. He is not, but he is still a fool with foolish ideas and goals.

Yes, I agree that I, purposely, added the comment on obama and it greatly changes my OP.

Please do not delete any of my OP. It is all there on purpose.


You are correct about that. It's partisanship at work. Of course they thought Bush was a fool.
 
Aug 2013
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Oklahoma
There almost certainly will be war in the region. It too will be over oil as has the ME conflicts. Halliburton is aggressively working the South China Sea which has disputed control. In November of 2011, our president went to Australia and gave a warning speech to China in which he declared that he was posting the marines in Australia to let Asia know that the US is in town and we've got your back, just in case China were too start anything. A very short time later Leon Panetta announced that the pentagon would be transferring 60% of its assets to the WEST-PAC. Additionally, the US is building the largest military base and deep water port in our history in Guam. Just google China's military expenditures and see the fantastic increases in the past 5 years. Don't know what difficulties the US would have taking on China, particularly if they received any aid at all from Russia, but it wouldn't compare to taking on the Taliban, Saddam's army or the Libyan forces!!
 
Oct 2012
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Louisville, Ky
I find it very unlikely either the U.S. or China would allow a direct conflict to become reality, primarily because both are aware of the resulting damage to both the economic and physical future it would entail. Though stranger things have happened, and one can imagine scenarios...the world would be a very different place when the smoke cleared.
 
Aug 2013
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Sure, I understand that, but we have had two world wars in the last century. And Obama did make that speech, he did post the marines in Australia, Panetta did say 60% of the pentagons assets were being moved to the WEST-PAC, we are building our largest military base in our history in Gaum, and Chinese military expenditures are on steroids! Also, Russia and China are somewhat fed up with US aggression and have blocked every attempt at the UN for authorization to use military force in Syria. And damage to economic future? We're in huge trouble already. WW11 proved how beneficial war can be to the economy. Many analysts have argued it was the biggest factor to get us out of the depression. Corporate America loved it, it produced the MIC that 15 years later Eisenhower was warning us about and profits were so good the three big automobile manufacturers one year made no autos at all, too busy making tanks, jeeps, trucks, etc. and now the MIC that Eisenhower warned us of, has indeed become too big to fail with a huge appetite, satisfied only by war and we have the perfect scenarios before us now!
 
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