O admin insists Ft. Hood shooting is workplace violence

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There are no growing fears. Sure there was an understandable "spike" right after 9/11, but the vast majority of Americans are both rational & reasonable.
No, they aren't. Most Americans are far from rational and reasonable.
 
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The fears of Islamism in America are nowhere near the abundance that they should be. Having read 25 books on Muslim jihad (in all its forms), for 12 years, + thousands of their footnoted reports + various website material, I have a pretty good working knowledge of it. I find the average person to be almost 100% ignorant of it.

The Obama administration would like to keep it that way, at great peril to the American people and America's fundamental (non-Muslim) way of life. This is perhaps Obama's worst trait as president of the US.

Obama administration = the Muslim Brotherhood - Yahoo Search Results

This is my point. Many Americans think we should fear Islam.
 
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Of course we should fear it. But not enough Americans do, because they don't possess the knowledge that would allow it.

We should fear nothing. Your kind of thinking is what has made this country weak.
 
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At least in the case of the 51% that actually re-elected Obama!

That wouldn't really concern me. People participating in the government is good. It's more of an issue that so many people don't participate.

In other countries people are forbidden to be involved in government.
 
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We should fear nothing. Your kind of thinking is what has made this country weak.

So you think you are even close to possessing the knowledge necessary to make that evaluation ? I will guess you're not. Until you can show me otherwise.
 
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So you think you are even close to possessing the knowledge necessary to make that evaluation ? I will guess you're not. Until you can show me otherwise.

I don't fear incompetent, suicidal idiots 1 step above cavemen just because they managed a 1-off attack of significance that still ended up blowing up in their faces. I'd be more worried about the UK going insane and nuking us then some crazies 1/2 a world away with weapons that were obsolete during the cold war.
 
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I don't fear incompetent, suicidal idiots 1 step above cavemen just because they managed a 1-off attack of significance that still ended up blowing up in their faces. I'd be more worried about the UK going insane and nuking us then some crazies 1/2 a world away with weapons that were obsolete during the cold war.

And what about crazies who are NOT 1/2 world away, but who reside right here in the USA ? Or others who enter the USA courtesy of our idiotic, politically-motivated, lax, immigration laws ? (like what let the 9-11 hijackers in )

And what about competent bombers, like the Boston Bombers, who succeeded in killing 4 people and injuring some others. And what about shooters like John Allen Muhammad (the Beltway Sniper) who killed 10 people, or 30+ ?

And what about the danger of terrorists carrying suitcase bombs, or some using nuclear material to really kill a lot of people ? A single bomber in that case, could kill thousands, as could a terrorist engineering a gas release attack, or one of biological means.

ANd even all this is just part of the equation. What about the NON-VIOLENT (Stealth) Jihad (AKA Islamization) of the Muslim Brotherhood, whose openly, stated goal is to abolish the US Constitution and Western civilization entirely, and replace it with an Islamic state ? Are you aware of the thousands of instances of this over the past 22 years, all adding together to destroy America from within ?

I guess they don't teach that in political science class, do they ? No, that's the stuff you learn on your own, as I did. So I still doubt that you have the knowledge necessary to assess all this, let alone say "We should fear nothing." Are you familiar with the important item, the first word of which is "Explanatory" ? Do you know who Lina Morales, Phil Alden Robinson, and Hasham Islam are ? Or many others involved in Islamization ?

Just wondering. :unsure:
 
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And what about crazies who are NOT 1/2 world away, but who reside right here in the USA ? Or others who enter the USA courtesy of our idiotic, politically-motivated, lax, immigration laws ? (like what let the 9-11 hijackers in )

And what about competent bombers, like the Boston Bombers, who succeeded in killing 4 people and injuring some others. And what about shooters like John Allen Muhammad (the Beltway Sniper) who killed 10 people, or 30+ ?

And what about the danger of terrorists carrying suitcase bombs, or some using nuclear material to really kill a lot of people ? A single bomber in that case, could kill thousands, as could a terrorist engineering a gas release attack, or one of biological means.

ANd even all this is just part of the equation. What about the NON-VIOLENT (Stealth) Jihad (AKA Islamization) of the Muslim Brotherhood, whose openly, stated goal is to abolish the US Constitution and Western civilization entirely, and replace it with an Islamic state ? Are you aware of the thousands of instances of this, all adding together to destroy America from within.

I guess they don't teach that in political science class, do they. No, that's the stuff you learn on your own, as I did. So I still doubt that you have the knowledge necessary to assess all this, let alone say "We should fear nothing." Are you familiar with the important item, the first word of which is "Explanatory". Do you know who Lina Morales, Phil Alden Robinson, and Hasham Islam are ? Or many others involved in Islamization ?

Just wondering. :unsure:

And what about the 2 Muslim countries we've turned into our playthings, the millions of Muslims killed or displaced by our revenge seeking armies and our ability to rain down death at will and with impunity? And lets not forget Gitmo. So aside from 9-11, a few dozen people dead vs. our unstoppable rampaging in the Mideast... Like I said, I'm not scared of such a pathetic enemy.
 
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Muslims have killed more muslims in Iraq, Syria, Libya, Egypt, etc, than the USA has in the last 13 years. How many did Saddam kill? How about the Iraq/Iran war in the 80,s? The American military targets terrorists. Muslim terrorists target civilians as well as military.
 
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And what about the 2 Muslim countries we've turned into our playthings, the millions of Muslims killed or displaced by our revenge seeking armies and our ability to rain down death at will and with impunity? And lets not forget Gitmo. So aside from 9-11, a few dozen people dead vs. our unstoppable rampaging in the Mideast... Like I said, I'm not scared of such a pathetic enemy.

Not meaning to be overly impetuous, but you completely bypassed my questions (probably because you are clueless to the answers), and despite your abounding ignorance, you ramble on to say you're not scared of a pathetic enemy.

This clearly shows you don't know what you're talking about. You keep talking as if the "enemy" is only some jihadists gunners thousands of miles away in Asia. What about the enemy right here in the USA. What about the thousands of non-violent, subversive attacks going on for over 20 years. The fact that you don't address yourself to these when I mention them indicates to me that mist likely you are oblivious to them,a nd have no idea what I'm talking about. So again >> who is Lina Morales ? What important things starts with the word "Explanatory" ? Who is Phil Alden Robinson ? Who is Peter DiGangi ? Hasham Islam ? Michael Graham ? I doubt you have any basis to talk about "fear", when it comes to jihad. You think the Muslim Brotherhood is a pathetic enemy ? I've got news for you. The MB is an almost 100 yeqr old organization that very well-financed, very well organized, and able to take power under various situations (as they just recently did in Egypt)

As for the war overseas, you are equally clueless. You stupidly blame US troops who are losing their lives protecting your ignorant butt. Do you have the foggiest idea of why they are there ? "Revenge seeking" ? You think THAT'S why thousand of Americans have lost their lives ? Where is your information coming from ?

EARTH TO DAVID: The US troops are in Afghanistan for 2 basic reasons:

1. To deny al Qaeda the use of the non-nation (Afghanistan) to hold bomb-making schools, with which the graduates can come to the US and kill Americans. In 2013, you don't know this ? We've only been there for 10 years. Sheeeesh.

2. Even more importantly, to be in close proximity to Pakistan's 100+ nuclear warheads, so that if the fragile Paki govt were to be toppled by Islamist loons (who are in abundance there), the US troops could quickly move in to secure those nukes, lest they be acquired by Al Qaeda, the Taliban, Lashar Toiba, et al Islamist loonies. In essence, we are preventing the annilhilation of the USA. Thousands of US troops don't die for no good reason. This isn't the 1960's with a bunch of nut cases promoting a Vietnam type war situation. Far from it.
 
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