I've heard these occupy losers demand (at different times) free education, free health care, a job, and the erasing of debts. They are like infants - they want the government, or someone, to take care of their every need. They have no idea how those things are created, but demand that someone create them and then give them to them. Why should anyone do that? Nothing more than that the occupiers exist. They "occupy" space.
I here they changed ! they are calling for a small government and elimination of budget deficit by cutting on said services and give more tax cut for the rich and restrict debt to wall street bailouts . I Guess if they get that every body have to get rich or die .ether way there will be only rich people in this country .
Your apparent grasp of economics and government policy is like that of the "Occupiers" - hovering near zero.
Your apparent grasp of economics and government policy is like that of the "Occupiers" - hovering near zero.
As opposed to the negative numbers for the TP.
how about you !Your apparent grasp of economics and government policy is like that of the "Occupiers" - hovering near zero.
For the congressman/senators and govt employees ..
Yes, it is the congressman/senators and govt employees who are recipient of FREE medical for LIFE with Zero deductible. They are the biggest beneficiaries of the economic downturn. Majority of private sector jobs are outsourced or filled by cheaper foreign temporary personnel. It is a double whammy for US skilled labor or fresh graduates who are frustrated and taken to OWS.
Yes, it is the congressman/senators and govt employees who are recipient of FREE medical for LIFE with Zero deductible. They are the biggest beneficiaries of the economic downturn. Majority of private sector jobs are outsourced or filled by cheaper foreign temporary personnel. It is a double whammy for US skilled labor or fresh graduates who are frustrated and taken to OWS.
How did those congressmen get where they are?? The "99%" that the occupiers claim they are elected them! So who are they going to protest next - THEMSELVES, for electing them?
The occupiers are leftwing, the same ones who support the illegal alien invasion - which is in essence exporting american jobs. What did those fresh graduates major in college - pottery? women's studies? basket weaving? Did they do anything to see what majors are in demand?
How did those congressmen get where they are?? The "99%" that the occupiers claim they are elected them! So who are they going to protest next - THEMSELVES, for electing them?
The occupiers are leftwing, the same ones who support the illegal alien invasion - which is in essence exporting american jobs. What did those fresh graduates major in college - pottery? women's studies? basket weaving? Did they do anything to see what majors are in demand?
Please, you really think elections mater anymore with things like gerrymandering?
Ironic that you say the Occupiers have very low economic knowledge and then you turn around to say something like this considering illegal immigration is good economically (and at the least arguably, to the point where you can't make a claim flatout as you just did and have it hold ground) and is supported by many economists of various schools and through many sound studies, including by economists such as Milton Friedman.
Yes, a lot of them misunderstand econ, but unfortunately so do a lot of TPers and a lot of both sides don't want to consider the actual facts, instead sticking with their intuitive, sensationalist and anti-intellectualist fairy tales.
So, you're saying congressmen didn't get in with a majority vote? And why the "anymore" - you think gerrymandering is anything new?
Well it is not exported since it is here, but a job also does not necessarily go away for the rest of Americans- that would only be true if the number of jobs in the market were static. Which they are not.
edit: Oh and it is not uncorroborated, I have given you proof before but you threw it aside by simply saying Friedman was wrong and by telling me a PDF was a "virus". It is also undeniable that any worker will add production to an economy, so that is an argument for the positives. Ironically, you never provide proof for your claim.
Assuming what you say is true if that mexican or indian or whatever is in America at least he will spend some of money in the economy if not all of it . . but you can't say training and education over there is better nor can you say the Americans are so dumm what is the rational Ain Rand ?
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Noooooooo.... when a >>FOREIGNER<< holds a job that an american could do, the job has been exported just as surely as if it were being done by a chinese in china, no matter where the foreigner is. The unemployment rate for >>Americans<< stays up.
No, you just periodically toss in a bunch of names, substituting argumentem ad authoritatem in lieu of arguing the issue. And there's one thing you don't get about the illegal alien invasion - you keep trying to look at it in purely economic terms, but it has great political, social, legal and other implications.
He'll spend as little money as possible and send the rest home to mexico. Whatever minor salutory effect that has on the economy is overwhelmed by the looting of social services: the huge burdens placed on the justice system by illegal alien crime, the evasion of taxes that would be readily collected in the case of american employees, the massive ripping off of the healthcare system.
The number of jobs is not static. This has long been proven. Might as well argue against gravity or evolution, but I am not going to waste my time with you on that.
Care to make arguments for any of those because all you've done is tell me what you think and said it is the truth?
As for the other terms:
political- I don't care much for political games- it might be weird for politicians to accept something illegal and they shouldn't but we as a people sure can.
social- accepting immigrants- a cornerstone of this country, no problem there
legal- no implications really- this goes with the politics
moral- I am not the one denying people the opportunity to better themselves. their communities, and their situations.
other- what do you want me to explain?
The economic term is really the most important here, primarily because it interweaves the other terms and can be measured objectively.
This is of course assuming it's someone on a work visa we're talking about. Your argument becomes moot if we're dealing with a true immigrant.
accept him and his family as citizens and he won't send any to Mexico , if any thing tax evasion is a rich peoples prerogative and problem more than any thing . wage earners can't do any tax evasion even if they want to .
I didn't say it was - now you're bringing in a non-sequitur.
I'm supposed to argue with your non-arguments? You might as well say "ooga-booga-boo" and ask me to rebut you.
I have NO idea what that's supposed to mean. Are ANY of you leftwingers coherent???
Comparing the current era massive illegal surge from mostly one country with previous legal immigration is so stupid, it ought to be CRIMINALLY stupid.
In a way it does - but the legal implication is that it makes a farce out of US immigration laws, fools out of the people who follow those laws, criminals out of those who illegally hire invaders, and consequently a general erosion of respect for the rule of law.
Do you say that too when someone robs a bank? It's OK if people break the law to better themselves?
You're blind. Economics has almost nothing to do with the leftwing importation of mexico's underclass. It has to do with them starting a nearly endless chain of creation of democrat voters so that they can obtain permanent political power, with all the devastation to this country that that would imply. Lose your blinders.
Patrick, I am done with you here. Anyone who actually cares to try to look at these points objectively can see who is trying to be objective here (even if their conclusions might not be the same as mine) and who has a misconceived, hateful, and racist agenda.
Oh and illegal immigrants can't vote so stop with the political conspiracy theories
Oh and illegal immigrants can't vote so stop with the political conspiracy theories
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