Maybe I should and maybe I shouldn't, but you have no idea what I am or am not for or against. I can say that I do not wish to be as destructive in my outlook as your posts.
I do have an idea, because I have read your posts. Why not just tell us your stance? To repeat :
Then you should be against the whole animal-"trainer" construct at sea world. You should be against the taking of wild creatures and making them perform in zoos, circuses and, of course, sea-world. Answer the question. Tell us your stance, then.
It is not destructive, but Truth-based.
I've got a pretty cynical view on these things, if you're going to play with fire eventually someone is going to get burnt.
My god this is a killer freaking whale, a 8.8 ton beast that belongs in huge massive bodies of water called the ocean, not some little holding cell to be gawked, prodded, and fish thrown at when he does something cool.
Yeah it's great to be able to go see these creatures we'd normally never be able to see, but why do people act surprised when their animal instincts kick in and they start whipping ass?
My god this is a killer freaking whale, a 8.8 ton beast that belongs in huge massive bodies of water called the ocean, not some little holding cell to be gawked, prodded, and fish thrown at when he does something cool.
Yeah it's great to be able to go see these creatures we'd normally never be able to see, but why do people act surprised when their animal instincts kick in and they start whipping ass?
Agreed. It should be illegal. It will be interesting to see if the woman's family sues Sea World.
Some of the animals are treated well, but I think it is quite inhumane to keep animals or birds in cages. Also, people have this strange knack of mirroring their own emotions on animals, deluding themselves that they know how to deal with them and that they love humans. One should probably always respect that they are non-human.
You are incorrect. All captive animals at seaworld and zoos are badly treated, even just because they are being imprisoned within the physical grounds of toxic human societies.
The whales at seaworld are not only victims of human society (although not to the extent humans are) due to their inability to live in nature, but also by confinement, being made to perform unnatural 'tricks' and so on.
Correct. Humans delude themselves that animals love them, because they are sick and desperately need to feel loved, even though that love is false. It is almost certain that animals (especially wild or natural animals) know that humans are inferior and disturbed and simply manipulate the humans they are forced and conditioned to interact with.
Not probably, should. They are Superior to human.
You are correct, with regard to seaworld and zoos. Apologies. I had in mind the "farms" that have been put specially together for species on the verge of becoming extinct, such as elephant farms in the United States, and farms in Southern Africa for preserving leopards, rhinos etc. Natural habitat, without being really natural. There are still boundaries attached.
Right, it is double jeopardy.
I agree with the first sentence, and I agree partially with the second. Animals do have good instincts, but I doubt they have enough thinking abilities to manipulate humans. It would be more a case of instincts for survival.
That could well be. They probably know more about us than we do about them. I sometimes wonder whether our "intelligence" is our greatest stumbling block. If we could get that out of the way, we may communicate with animals in a completely different, and perhaps much more honest way.
As you agree with the other material, I do not post it.
It is not a matter of having higher cognitive function. Humans have the highest cognitive function. However, humans are also hopelessly diseased in the mind, and suffer from derangements and mental disorders on a grand scale. The cognitive complexity in humans has lead to failure, unreliability and inability to handle Truth.
Intelligence is our greatest stumbling block, in that it has lead to an inability to recognize and embrace Truth. Theoretically, humans could have developed higher cognitive function without the genocidal drawbacks, but that is not what happened.
And dogs. Domestic dogs almost always learn how to manipulate their deranged and inferior human "owners".
Mental disorder for me is in the eye of the beholder, and definitely relative. Most of us may be suffering from it without being aware of it.
Probably because they cannot face themselves. Instead they seem to be chasing after a myth that has been created by society.
Right, like standing on their hind feet and begging for food. Then it is given to them. Ditto in the circus. Think I get it.
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