Perhaps a good place to retire to then? Are there a number of expats who retire to Philippines?
Philippines, A Nation of Servants?
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Well... I can many of them do retire to the Philippines. Many of them went to provinces and buy a land. Or some decide to make a business so they can have an income everyday like internet cafe or a grocery.
It is an interesting place to live, to be sure. And it can be a good place to retire, depending on the individual's circumstances and personality. It is fine for natives who work overseas and return to live after they retire, of course. But for ex-pats, you can not own land here. You can own a condo under certain conditions.
Medical services are not near the same level as in a developed country, regardless of the number of nurses being sent overseas from here. Richer Filipinos go overseas for their serious health care needs. So do most ex-pats if they can afford it. Now, for simple day to day health needs, it is cheaper and fine. You can buy many/most medications without a problem and only a few need prescriptions, unlike the many countries. (Yes, it is a conservative place so Viagra is one of them that requires a prescription.)
Part of the reason the Philippines provides such a large amount of workers is the lack of opportunity in their home country. There are few large foreign employers and the ones that exist often leave. Most of the foreign investment is heading to other Asian countries, leaving the Filipinos with few choices for a growing population except finding work abroad.
Medical services are not near the same level as in a developed country, regardless of the number of nurses being sent overseas from here. Richer Filipinos go overseas for their serious health care needs. So do most ex-pats if they can afford it. Now, for simple day to day health needs, it is cheaper and fine. You can buy many/most medications without a problem and only a few need prescriptions, unlike the many countries. (Yes, it is a conservative place so Viagra is one of them that requires a prescription.)
Part of the reason the Philippines provides such a large amount of workers is the lack of opportunity in their home country. There are few large foreign employers and the ones that exist often leave. Most of the foreign investment is heading to other Asian countries, leaving the Filipinos with few choices for a growing population except finding work abroad.
Thanks for the details. Think I need to have at least a holiday in the Philippines, perhaps one combined with diving. But not this year though. Am I wrong, but is there a place in the Philippines that has magic healing properties, healing waters? I seem to recollect they had a special retreat where all people who are really very sick go?
Yes. There is a place like that here. But I can't remember where.
I will tell it to you if I remembered.There are lots of tourist go here for a vacation especially on Boracay and other beaches.
One of the reasons that foreing companies don't invest there is that it is seen as the most corrupt country in SE Asia. Another is that there are a lot of workforce problems. I haven't been there in nearly 20 years, but I still remember a man who ran a small jewelery manufacturing business telling me about the concept of 'one last best chance'. Apparently, no matter what an employee does, you are expected to give that employee 'one last best chance', and to give it multiple times. His whole staff was horrified when he fired a man for stealing from him. They all insisted that he should be given 'one last best chance'.
Other problems are safety of personnel assigned there, the willingness of people to move there, and infrastructure.
Where are the jobs, and how are they paid? What I hear from people from the Phillipines in the Middle East is that the ones that pay well in Government are not fairly available to all, in other words there is some corruption giving Government jobs to only those who have contacts higher up in Government?
I can say it's true. There are times you need some contact on a higher positioned person for you to be easily accepted on the applied job. Lately, the government organization, TESDA, held a job fair for students, newly graduates and jobless people. They said they have over a thousand jobs available.
There is never a really good match between jobs that are available and jobs that people are qualified for. It's just that the mismatch gets worse in hard times because highly qualified people start applying for lower skilled jobs, and those that might normally be looking for a better position in another company tend to stay put.
Are you talking about government jobs in the Philippines or about government jobs in other countries? Almost all coutries reserve government jobs for their citizens or permanent residents.
As far as the Philippines government implying there are plenty of jobs out there, they are either in denial or are saying what is politically expedient. Mexicans are returning from the US in droves, because there isn't any work, at any wage. And companies are not going to bother hiring foreign workers and going to the trouble and expense of hiring and relocating them if they can pull from a dramatically increased labor pool at home.
Are you talking about government jobs in the Philippines or about government jobs in other countries? Almost all coutries reserve government jobs for their citizens or permanent residents.
As far as the Philippines government implying there are plenty of jobs out there, they are either in denial or are saying what is politically expedient. Mexicans are returning from the US in droves, because there isn't any work, at any wage. And companies are not going to bother hiring foreign workers and going to the trouble and expense of hiring and relocating them if they can pull from a dramatically increased labor pool at home.
Ditto in the Middle East relative to India. We still find a large number of cheap construction labour coming from India, but the more skilled Indians are returning to better jobs in India and as first-class citizens in their home country. Attitudes have changed dramatically in terms of asking for higher salaries and better living conditions.
I am talking about jobs in the government. I think they rarely accept foreigners on gevernment offices. But as far as I have heard, skilled workers are severely in demand in the Middle East and Canada. Especially nurses and construction workers.
Correct. Here where I am in the Middle East they used to prefer Western expat nurses at one time, but lately Phillipino nurses as they are willing to work for much less salaries. Think we have just touched on one of the reasons why Phillipino expats sometimes can be regarded in the "slave" category as they sometimes undercut themselves in willing to work for lower pay. They are also quite easily accommodated in crowded and less-ideal living conditions and very rarely complain.
They like to work abroad because salaries here are low. Imagine the nurses. Here, they can only earn PhP18k or roughly $360 a month while their in abroad they can earn as much as PhP300k or roughly $60000 a month!
Yes, Filipinos rarely complain but that's the reason why some of them are abused by their employers. And some even got killed.
That is no lie. There has been instances in the Middle East where they have been killed by their employers, especially domestic servants. They are really treated abysmally bad in certain instances, not allowed to go out, being on call about 7 days out of 7 days, and taking lots of stress. There have been instances of suicide too. I saw a published report of the situation in Lebanon and that was really bad. Refer link below:And some even got killed.
http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2008/08/26/55494.html
They like to work abroad because salaries here are low. Imagine the nurses. Here, they can only earn PhP18k or roughly $360 a month while their in abroad they can earn as much as PhP300k or roughly $60000 a month!
Yes, Filipinos rarely complain but that's the reason why some of them are abused by their employers. And some even got killed.
I think your math is messed up. Where in the world do nurses earn sixty thousand dollars per month? Thats $720,000 per year. $60,000 a year is more reasonable.
Well, sorry about that. I just heard about it on the news.
Maybe I just misheard it. ><" Sorry tho.
The very high earners perhaps, but as an average I think it is more like less than half of that.
A lot of the recruiting is for big city hospitals, like Los Angeles County Hostpital and Bellevue in New York or Cook County General (home of ER) in Chicago, so the salaries will be inflated because they are in expensive metropolitan areas. Nurses in NYC can make over $85,000, I've heard. I just found a site that gave the average salary in California for RNs at over $74,000, and even in Florida it was over 53,000.
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